I suspect the G, even with all the crap hanging off it, will still be more user friendly behing the boat than the B.
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The Great Growler Gallery
- Thread starter woodman
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Yeah, its called a HUD!
The nice thing about the EF-18 is you COULD become the proverbial triple threat:
1. Jam 'em on the way in ...
2. Blow the shit out of the gomers on the ground w/ your ordnance ...
3. Shoot some 3rd world jet-jock in the face on the way out ...
Life is good ....
1. Jam 'em on the way in ...
2. Blow the shit out of the gomers on the ground w/ your ordnance ...
3. Shoot some 3rd world jet-jock in the face on the way out ...
Life is good ....
So how long until someone says," Hey, these old pods don't stand up to the performance of our new(ish) airplane, it's time to redesign."?
The nice thing about the EF-18 is you COULD become the proverbial triple threat:
1. Jam 'em on the way in ...
2. Blow the shit out of the gomers on the ground w/ your ordnance ...
3. Shoot some 3rd world jet-jock in the face on the way out ...
Life is good ....
With a .86 Mach limitation, you're not going to shoot much. And with 1 AIM-120 available, if you find some third world jet jock between you and the boat, something has gone terribly wrong. With those kinds of limitaions all they need to do is scare you enough into running away and ringing the doorbell to shed the drag and it's a mission success for them. Thus, this thing needs to stay away from the fight.
On the G available limits, the airfram slick may have more than the Prowler, but the computers are going to limit your G base on load out, as well as alpha. With two or three pods, a tank and maybe a Harm on board, your turn radius will be the size of Rhode Island, and you MAY have 5.5 g's, however you can expect to bleed every knot of airspeed you've got to achieve those 5.5 G's. NOT a good place to be with a Flanker or Fulcrum running you down.
You first have to find the money to do that.
You know more about the current -18 bird missions than I .... but those "limitations" were seen as "opportunities to excel" in the Attack community ...
You know more about the current -18 bird missions than I .... but those "limitations" were seen as "opportunities to excel" in the Attack community ...
Yeah, without getting into specifics... the limitations discussed thus far make for a very neutered fighter against current threat aircraft. I mean .86 isn't even tactical, and I'd be surprised if you could even get there without sucking down a full bag of go-juice in a very short time.
The real capabilites of this thing when the technology matures have yet to be fully exploited, but the potential is freakin' eyewatering... and I ain't talkin' speed and G.
I have heard rumblings about trying to test the pods out further; dunno if the Pax or China Lake guys ever ran with that.
And that would cost $$$. I know some people that have "unofficially" tested the pods above .86 IMN.
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And that would cost $$$. I know some people that have "unofficially" tested the pods above .86 IMN.
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Yea, night one of Desert Storm for one courtesy of VAQ-132
If there is a red air threat between a Growler & the boat, the Growler had better be more concerned with throwing out every tron possible because it won't be the bad guy fighter he has to worry about, it's all the converging Squid & Zoomie fighter dudes trying to get a kill.
S/F
Amen, brother. This thing has so much untapped potential it's scary. Given the bagful of SA the backseat (and the front seat, for that matter...) can give you, I can see the G being the quarterback of the whole strike package. I thnk the CAGs of the near future will want to fly nothing else.
As they say in the G program office: "Two proven systems, plus a whole lotta other crap!"
I saw a .ppt presentation (surprise surprise) that had a higher IMN outlined with the current pods.
I can't remember if the number was FOUO so I won't post it. If anyone esle has the number and knows it isn't FOUO by all means. This was per a caps brief from boeing.
The answer is negative over a year. This question isn't new, especially with some of the threat radar systems we could encounter. The G does bring some new jammin' systems to the fight. There is more to that bird's capabilities than just the pods under the wings. It can jam in ways the Prowler can't.
As for redesigning the pods, that is in the works, too. Who knows when it will happen. There are folks working on that as we speak. Amazingly it needs more money, but there have already been funds allocated to starting the ball rolling.