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Public Perceptions of NA (Your Own Experiences)

jride200

Member
All right, kind of worked up here, pardon if I ramble . . .

Coming home from the Rockford Airfest, my brother and I stop to eat at a greasy truck-stop diner. He always wants to go to these places. I suspect he enjoys the experiences from a cultural, anthropological perspective.

Sitting on bar stools alongside a middle aged trucker, peacefully eating my biscuits and gravy, my brother asks me a question about NA. I'm wearing a nice, new Navy Flex-fit cap that I picked up from recruiters at the airfest. One of the truckers comments, "Navy=Never Again Volunteer Yourself," and some other BS. I'm laughing my ass off now, just let me tell you. My brother proudly, and innocently, tells them that I have an OCS date, designator SNA. I cringe, knowing that this conversation is going downhill fast.

The nameless trucker proceeds to tell me that Top Gun moved to Fallon. Duh. He tells me that, unlike Miramar, there is no tail to chase in Fallon. He tells me about a sub base on a lake in northern Idaho. He tells me the depth of the lake is a national secret, implying it somehow connects to the Pacific. (In reality, I knew that the Navy uses this lake, because of its still waters, to perform acoustic research on scale subs, but I said nothing.) He finally tells me that his best buddy's son is a 2nd Lt. in the AF. His buddy's son flies Combat Search And Rescue, and this, he tells me, requires pilots with bigger stones than any other in the military. I really said nothing to this guy; he did most of the talking. You know the type.

Here is what I have observed: for every one person who appreciates what you all do, and I hope, god willing, to do, there are a half dozen chuckleheads like this guy. Many such cases are milder. "My brothers, wife's, nephew's, cousin is a Naval Aviator. He said ___(insert f-d up advise here)___." Now, I realize humans naturally want to make connections in their conversations, but Naval Aviator's are a rare breed. I've busted my ass to get this far and you all have busted your asses to become Naval Aviators. How about some respect? Those I previously mentioned, who properly appreciate, simply say "Wow" or "I know that is hard to do" when I tell them about my budding career. Perhaps they know that they really don’t know.

Back in the car on our way home, my brother senses I'm worked up. He reminds me that I may well have to deal with that kind of shit for the rest of my life. I'm getting to the point were I am reluctant to tell people about my future plans and that sucks. Although I'm humble by nature, I'm extremely proud of the career I have ahead of me.

What experiences like this have you had? How have you handled them? The naivety of the general public really will never cease to amaze me.

JR
 

FelixTheGreat

World's greatest pilot and occasional hero
pilot
Welcome to my world. I live in Colorado, where the Air Force runs the state. When I first started looking towards applying to the Navy in order to fly I heard how bad of a decision it was, on weekly basis, from all the Air Force pilots who came into my home airport. Every time I was asked who I wanted to fly for, I would get all stary eyed and talk about my Naval aspirations only to be told the Air Force is the way to go.

My advice: Stick to your guns. You will run into some awsome Naval Aviators and service members who will lift those spirits. I have found that most of the people who try to shoot you down are trying to feed you their sour grapes. Stick with it, and do what you really feel is right. You don't want to look up at the sky some day when you are 40, seeing a flight of F/A-18s pass by and say I wish I would have done things differently.
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
Contributor
What exactly is it that you are upset about? Sounds like the guy knew more than the average bear. He had some opinions, so what. Clearly you do too.

What makes you think that because he tried to make smalltalk that he's a "chucklehead" who doesn't appreciate what "we do". Its entirely likely that the reason he went out of his way to talk to you is because he "has some respect".

Maybe the guy isn't the brightest bulb in the box, and bought into some "lore", and maybe he's not the slickest socially... but that doesn't give you the right to look down your nose at him.

Slow your roll there Ricky Rocket.
 

CaptainRon

Member
pilot
Contributor
In school when people found that after graduation I would be heading to OCS with a pilot contract, 90% said something like, "Awesome! I always dreamed of doing something cool like that, but instead I'm becoming an accountant (or another boring-as-hell-job). Good luck man."

The other ten percent almost laughed at me for my military plans after school. Some made jokes about me getting shot down and killed over Iraq. Others called me nuts for wanting to be in a "death box" for my job. Others said something like, "Well, that job couldn't have been too hard to get picked up for. There is a war going on after all. They'll take anybody."

To the critics, I told them that my uncle was a pilot about 40 years ago and still can't shut up about it because he loved it so much. I told them my other relatives and friends never say much at all about their jobs because they generally hate them.

I also informed them that I had to work very hard to get this contract because they're not going to let any clown off the street fly multimillion dollar machines.

My uncle and my dad (also a retired Navy guy) informed me that I will feel a division between myself and my civilian friends. I hope that's not entirely true, but in some cases it may be because some of my old friends from college annoyed me with they way they talked about the whole thing.
 

jride200

Member
Captain: Great advice.

Scoober: I'm not looking down my nose at him because he is a trucker. Trust me, I don't operate like that. I'm breaking my back until OCS as a laborer with a large (i.e. 12+" diameter) pipefitting company if that tells you anything. I'm Praying nothing goes under, over, or around my safety glasses.

Perhaps I did not explain well, or it has been misconstrued. It's just frustrating when seemingly everyone you talk to has some piece of advice for you, most of it, exclusively, BS that they've only taken from pop culture.

JR
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
Contributor
It's just frustrating when seemingly everyone you talk to has some piece of advice for you, most of it, exclusively, BS that they've only taken from pop culture.

JR

Water off a duck my friend. You just gotta roll with it. People are going to talk...its just that way. 99.9% of them aren't doing it to be insulting, or put you down, in fact, I'd say most do it out of admiration and respect. (better than talking about fax machines and cubicles) Even interservice rivaly, (AF pukes, Army dawgs etc...) has its share of grudging respect.

Maybe instead of getting spun up, make it a point to respectfully and gently participate and correct parts of the conversation? Like they tell you on liberty, be a "good representative."
 

jride200

Member
I've never once doubted the good intentions of those I have conversed with.

I'm learning as I go. Thanks gents.
 

Tom

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Most the responses I get are, "The Navy has planes? I thought they were big into ships." It must have to do with my location.
 

CaptainRon

Member
pilot
Contributor
Most the responses I get are, "The Navy has planes? I thought they were big into ships." It must have to do with my location.

I get that sometimes too Tom. People more often ask me what is going on with my Air Force plans than my Navy plans.
 

Schnugg

It's gettin' a bit dramatic 'round here...
None
Super Moderator
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At Fallon....Stockmans and Le Nugget....always a good time on "Space Night"...

:eek: :bigeyes2_ :bigeyes_1 :censored_ :icon_cry: in that order or close to it....
 

rare21

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
you think NAs have it bad, try being a cop...its always a downhill conversation
 

mustang_wife

Domestic Engineer Specialist
I get that sometimes too Tom. People more often ask me what is going on with my Air Force plans than my Navy plans.


I know nothing about planes...but I did know the Navy had planes-(wahoo 1pt for the civilian upbringing!) :icon_tong Anyhow, I always thought the Navy had to have the best pilots seeing as you have to land on a moving aircraft carrier in the middle of the ocean. That has to take some Mad Skills.

*my opinion was inserted here so please no bashing from other branches* lol. :D
 
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