You're not in CODs yet Bates. And besides, I was an engineering major out of Illinois!
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Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators
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You're not in CODs yet Bates. And besides, I was an engineering major out of Illinois!
Maybe we SHOULD have an understanding of an airfoil. I mean if you can't handle a little simple physics/engineering, then maybe you're not ideal.Why do you think that a technical major is the strongest sought by the Navy?
Granted, the Navy is pretty hard up and will accept almost anyone to be an aviator or NFO.
I'd like to counter the notion that anything beyond the most basic understanding of aero (I.E. what's taught at API) is necessary or even helpful for operators of Naval aircraft. Unless you're intent on going the TPS route, don't waste your time.
Brett
Tex: too much knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
They handed out the tome to Naval Aerodynamics in Pre-Flight --- still got mine, of course --- a very nice hard-bound book in the old days --- the Instructor said "open it" .... we did .... he said "Close it" .... we did .... and then he said:
"Put it away. That's the last time you will need to open this fine book to fly airplanes for the Navy.... "
And he was right.
They handed out the tome to Naval Aerodynamics in Pre-Flight --- still got mine, of course --- a very nice hard-bound book in the old days --- the Instructor said "open it" .... we did .... he said "Close it" .... we did .... and then he said:
"Put it away. That's the last time you will need to open this fine book to fly airplanes for the Navy.... "
And he was right.
Maybe we SHOULD have an understanding of an airfoil. I mean if you can't handle a little simple physics/engineering, then maybe you're not ideal.
Granted, the Navy is pretty hard up and will accept almost anyone to be an aviator or NFO.
If anyone knows kmac, they would understand why he says what he says. For us normal folks (not sure if normal applies to me though), the basics are more than enough to fly airplanes for the navy.
MasterBates
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Simple Physics/Engineering to Kmac would probably make most other Engineers eyes glaze over..
Then this:One thing I do know, never piss off an engineer.
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For what its worth...(not much I know), I have had zero use for any aerodynamic knowledge since leaving API. Is it helpful to know that increasing AOA at a given airspeed increases lift? Sure. Will you also figure that out with a business degree? Absolutely.
As far as why the Navy prefers technical majors...I would suggest two things. The first being tradition. It has always been so, and most Navy jobs are somewhat technical...so...
Second, the ability to complete a technical major shows an ability to organize, use and regurgitate material that you are recently aquaited with that completion of a non-technical major may not neccesarily demonstrate. Just as a 1400 on the SAT's doesn't guarantee that you will succeed in college, a technical major isn't a guarantee that you will suceed in Naval Aviation...it does however tell whomever something about the way your head works.
BTW...as a non-technical major and at the time, not a college grad...I would go toe to toe with the JO's on my boat about plant engineering and routinely come away ahead...the degree doesn't make the man.
As far as why the Navy prefers technical majors...I would suggest two things. The first being tradition. It has always been so, and most Navy jobs are somewhat technical...so...
Second, the ability to complete a technical major shows an ability to organize, use and regurgitate material that you are recently aquaited with that completion of a non-technical major may not neccesarily demonstrate. Just as a 1400 on the SAT's doesn't guarantee that you will succeed in college, a technical major isn't a guarantee that you will suceed in Naval Aviation...it does however tell whomever something about the way your head works.
BTW...as a non-technical major and at the time, not a college grad...I would go toe to toe with the JO's on my boat about plant engineering and routinely come away ahead...the degree doesn't make the man.
I couldn't agree more.
While I may not be able to make this claim much longer, a 10th grade education plus a pinch of salt was all I needed to excel in Naval Aviation.Brett
I was about to say, there is a need/use for some aerodynamics as you go along. Understanding the power curve can be helpful as well. But that doesn't go against what Brett said. Most, if not all you need to know you get in API (and later HTs if you go that route).
Yeah, it doesn't take a genius to figure out E&M diagrams or other performance related things. It takes an engineer to create these tools, not to employ them.
Brett
Agreed, but the "I Believe" button is for pussies.
