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01JUN26 SNA/SNFO board

PanthersFan1 said:
I know people with 5's on ASTB get picked up because they had their commercial rating. They say flight time doesn't matter but it definitely does, however they won't use it against you. I think recruiters say that so people with no flight time don't get discouraged. Also, it makes sense. The purpose of the ASTB is to predict how well you'd do in flight school. If you have proven that you finished and passed private, instrument, and commercial, it's the same as earning your wings in the navy. The absolute best way to demonstrate to the navy that you will finish and pass navy flight school. For example, if one were to even get their multi-engine add on, or even CFI/CFII, they'd get picked up one hundred percent, and if they did not, it would not be logical.
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I get the logic, but we have to look at the ground truth here. The numbers just don't lie. The trends have always shown that a higher ASTB score leads to a higher chance of selection for SNA or SNFO. Now, is that formula 100% consistent? Not at all. You could be the perfect candidate on paper with a 4.0 GPA and 9/9/9 scores, but if you have a lengthy legal or drug record, the board will see that and very likely lean towards a non-select. Sometimes stats are more than just meets the eye. When you mention seeing 5s with flight time get picked up, there may be missing variables. Was the full score actually a 5/5/5? They might have had a 5 on the AQR, but their PFAR or FOFAR could have been much higher, which changes the whole picture. There are also programs like URLO-ISPP for fleet folks where hitting the minimums and having a Flag Officer endorsement can fast-track an OCS spot regardless of the "typical" stats.

As for civilian ratings, they don't always correlate to success in military flight school. Learning to fly on your own is great to see if you actually like being in the air, but I’ve seen students with commercial certs struggle because they had to unlearn civilian habits to fit the military system. It’s not always a leg up.

At the end of the day, do the civilian flight hours because you want them, not because you think it’s a 100% guarantee for the Navy. The idea that a CFI or a multi-engine rating makes you an automatic lock and/or competitive just isn't how the boards operate. Focus on the ASTB, as that is the most important part of the puzzle piece here.
 
PanthersFan1 said:
so how does this explain the people who score very low on ASTB with flight experience getting picked up? It is completely illogical for this to be the case. If i get my instrument rating, which I am doing now, it will help me tremendously in flight school and I will have a higher NSS score in flight school then others. If you're a CFI, you will excel in flight school versus some frat dude that just graduated college.
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AD have a program where they just need to score the minimum scores and can bypass the board process. Sometimes people with 5's do get picked up, however before your time they bumped up the minimum scores to 6's probably due to various reasons. I will say I don't remember the few applicants who were picked up with 5's from my district actually getting through the pipeline, it was to be fair very few that were picked up, so much so that almost all were declined by the board, and yes some had CFI/multi/commercial, one had LOR from a 2 star, and one from a congressman.If you want to get those certifications do it because you want them.

Your scores are great and with a PFAR of 9 I don't think you will have any issue getting selected.
 
exNavyOffRec said:
AD have a program where they just need to score the minimum scores and can bypass the board process. Sometimes people with 5's do get picked up, however before your time they bumped up the minimum scores to 6's probably due to various reasons. I will say I don't remember the few applicants who were picked up with 5's from my district actually getting through the pipeline, it was to be fair very few that were picked up, so much so that almost all were declined by the board, and yes some had CFI/multi/commercial, one had LOR from a 2 star, and one from a congressman.If you want to get those certifications do it because you want them.

Your scores are great and with a PFAR of 9 I don't think you will have any issue getting selected.
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Does ISPP provide any better chance of getting picked up rather than an AD applicant that applies via ISEL?
 
exNavyOffRec said:
AD have a program where they just need to score the minimum scores and can bypass the board process. Sometimes people with 5's do get picked up, however before your time they bumped up the minimum scores to 6's probably due to various reasons. I will say I don't remember the few applicants who were picked up with 5's from my district actually getting through the pipeline, it was to be fair very few that were picked up, so much so that almost all were declined by the board, and yes some had CFI/multi/commercial, one had LOR from a 2 star, and one from a congressman.If you want to get those certifications do it because you want them.

Your scores are great and with a PFAR of 9 I don't think you will have any issue getting selected.
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Is an LOR from a one star essentially no different from any other LOR since the board focuses on GPA and ASTB?
 
bailey8756 said:
Does ISPP provide any better chance of getting picked up rather than an AD applicant that applies via ISEL?
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I don't think AD can apply for ISEL, anyway ISPP is less restrictive as AD just needs to meet minimum qualifications and be approved by the first flag in the individuals chain of command.
 
Low_GPA_High_AOA said:
Yeah the May board last year before the September board bloodbath picked up everyone and their mama with iirc 70% selection rate
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Damn that sucks because I was trying to get on that board but missed out on it. Trying to get on whatever is the next board that opens up but lowkey worried it is also going to be a bloodbath.
 
Lighting_II said:
In my case would it even be worth the risk?

52 7 9 8

Ik that there technically is room for improvement especially on the OAR but I feel weary about it since I really do not want to risk losing the 7 9 8.
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Look you're just going to have to wait. The FY year just started, the ISELs will get their slots and whatever is left over will be used on the boards. Your scores are good. Just going to have to be patient.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru said:
Retake only if you weren't selected.
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I have a quick question abt this. Would you still want to retake it (with a 9 PFAR) if the next board is more than 6 months away? I could be wrong but isn’t the window before you can reapply with the same scores/gpa 6 months? I feel like it would be a bit of an unnecessary risk if you can just wait. Obviously if the next board is soon you’ll want to.
 
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