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Random Griz Aviation Musings
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From the ramp at 1A9 two nights ago. We completed an intense week of Flight training and an event the Air Force calls a "Flight Clinic". Bringing together our active duty and reservist Air Force pilots along with my fellow pilot rated civilians. We operated like any normal front line unit with a morning, afternoon, and evening go. Everyone took turns being the IP or the student. Although we had a couple of young O-5s that are beginning their transition training to cap aircraft coming from cC17 and C12 in this case. Neither had touched a general aviation piston high performance aircraft before. Lots of fun and lots of great camaraderie. A good way to enjoy a week of per diem. We had an assistant Secretary of the Air Force come and visit as well as a active duty three-star.
Anyone have any thoughts on getting a high performance endorsement? I could see it potentially being useful if someone at the airport needed an IPC or BFR in something like a Bonanza, but admittedly it would also be a little bit about vanity. It bugs me (a little bit, but not a lot) that I foolishly never got signed off when I had the opportunity.
If I were to make the jump over to flying fixed-wing professionally, I'm sure the endorsement would just be wrapped up in the transition training. I don't know if the extra gold star with a smiley face in the logbook is worth the time and money...or if the school I would probably use still has their 182.
If I were to make the jump over to flying fixed-wing professionally, I'm sure the endorsement would just be wrapped up in the transition training. I don't know if the extra gold star with a smiley face in the logbook is worth the time and money...or if the school I would probably use still has their 182.
Not needed. Your PIC solo experience in the T-34C suffices along with your mil comp ratings award - as your complex and high performance endorsement. This was validated by a DPE when I did my Airplane Category Flight Instructor add-on.
Same for Spin Training.
That said, to your point when you do your Commercial Multi Engine add-on, the instructor will cover their 6 with both endorsements.
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Beat me to it!
Do you have an actual citation? It makes sense, since the rating came from a HP/Complex plane, I'm just curious if it's actually written in black in white somewhere.
Which I would have thought the CFI rating would already bestow, since it's now a requirement for CFIs. Either way, I did my initial spin training a few decades ago in a 152 while getting my private. I want to say it was a requirement (waaaay) back then for PPL, but I might be making that up.
No HP endorsement for me. I was told 2 x 180 != 360. I did roll to the check ride with -1 endorsement because my CFI forgot one in Foreflight. Thankfully the DPE was cool about it and let us sort it out electronically while he waited.
Thanks for info, Chuck...I am curious to see where the first part came from, though.
I'm on nights right now, so it's highly likely my brain isn't fully functional. That said, I don't see anything there pertaining to an endorsement, just specifically Category, Class, and Rating (if applicable). Since there's no rating for a HP aircraft by default, and the Class (as I understand it defined) is just ASEL (or AMEL), how do I (legally) say I'm good?
Please understand I'm not arguing that what you guys are saying makes sense conceptually. If you were flying a HP/Complex aircraft in the military, it should transfer under a Mil-Comp, but the text of that reg doesn't actually say that since those are endorsements and not ratings.
I'm sure I'm missing something, so just trying to get smart on what I'm guessing is a definition I'm missing.
Sorry about that. Check 61.31, paragraphs E and F.
Normal practice in my neck of the woods is to endorse logbooks on a former military pilot’s initial checkout flight in a qualifying aircraft, just to ensure all bases are covered.
Ah, thanks.
The way I read that, I would not be eligible to fly a HP aircraft since I'm not that old...I mean I don't meet the 1997 requirement and I haven't taken a .293 check ride in Category.
Paragraphs F (i) and (ii) state "authorized instructor" which has historically meant a CFI (or Check Airman) since there's no Mil-Comp transitivity.
Again, I get the logic, but having done so many .293 and .297 check rides over the years now I've learned to be TOO literal with the regs. Chuck if you have a FSDO letter or something else that that DPE you mentioned provided, I'd be curious to see it.
What are you trying to do? Most organizations require a checkout with a CFI before they'll release an airplane to you, which should satisfy the training requirement for the endorsement. If you bought your own plane, it's as simple as finding a local CFI to fly with you once and endorse you, and you should be good- insurance may require more, but that's separate from the legal requirement.
In short, military pilots not having the HP/Complex/HA endorsements initially should be a self-correcting issue in most cases.