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USN Showdown between Super Hornet and F-35

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
I don't have the solution, but the opaqueness of PAC money is a real problem. So is that a lot of these House districts are so gerrymandered (both sides, but GOP edges the Dems out IMO), that the races for these seats is all about who can be the most extreme (right/left) in the primary. To the detriment of our country. There are clowns on both sides (Talib/Boebert/etc), but the House GOP is really showing their ass these last few weeks with the speaker shitshow and the threat of a shutdown IMO.

It’s a race to the bottom. As soon as you pick a side based on who seems “less bad”, then IMO they’ve basically won.

I’m not sure how we fix that.
 

Random8145

Registered User
That's part of why I'd like to see political parties in general taken down a peg or two. We shouldn't have "partisan" or "bipartisan" issues in America, just issues, with solutions that we approach together as Americans. That's gotten so hard, I seriously doubt what I just said is realistic in 2023.
I don't think approaching issues together is possible. There's too many issues on which both sides are diametrically opposed.
 

Random8145

Registered User
Diversity is also good because it brings points of view to a subject that otherwise would go unnoticed. For example, most buildings where shows for audiences are shown have bathrooms likely designed by men. The reason is because the women's bathroom is always the same size as the men's bathroom, which results in long lines coming out of the women's bathrooms. Also the stalls are the same size, which makes it difficult if a woman has to fit multiple children and luggage into a stall. If women were more involved in the design process, the women's bathrooms would likely be much larger to prevent such long lines and the stalls a lot bigger. Whereas men don't tend to think about such things.

Another example is medical publishing. If you buy books on human anatomy, or see illustrated pictures of a baby in the womb in such books, it is almost always a white baby in a white woman, and white people displayed. You virtually never see a black baby or black or brown peoples displayed. This is probably because most such publishing people are white and that aspect skips right over their thinking.

I am sure there are numerous other examples, so while in seeking diversity one must be careful not to engage in reverse discrimination or hiring people who are clearly unqualified, at the same time, having diverse organizations of humans will result in much more informed decision-making.
 
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Random8145

Registered User

I don't have the solution, but the opaqueness of PAC money is a real problem. So is that a lot of these House districts are so gerrymandered (both sides, but GOP edges the Dems out IMO), that the races for these seats is all about who can be the most extreme (right/left) in the primary. To the detriment of our country. There are clowns on both sides (Talib/Boebert/etc), but the House GOP is really showing their ass these last few weeks with the speaker shitshow and the threat of a shutdown IMO.
The GOP has unfortunately moved a good deal into Looneyville as of late, at least on foreign policy IMO. Between the anti-Ukraine/pro-Russia side and Lindsay "Let's Bomb Iran" Graham, I mean jeez...
 

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
I don't think approaching issues together is possible. There's too many issues on which both sides are diametrically opposed.
I think we have more in common than we realize. People taking partisan positions creates opposition someone else gains from creating.

We have to stop letting political parties and the popular media lead us around by the nose.
 
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sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
The GOP has unfortunately moved a good deal into Looneyville as of late, at least on foreign policy IMO. Between the anti-Ukraine/pro-Russia side and Lindsay "Let's Bomb Iran" Graham, I mean jeez...
Yes they have, and in the blue corner, we have the pro-Hamas squad, heads broadly in the sand on border control, and the national debt doesn’t matter, so let’s spend our way out of every problem.

Both sides suck equally, and are going down the path of authoritarian rule by force. There seems to be no incentive to come back to center.
 
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FLGUY

“Technique only”
pilot
Contributor
The GOP has unfortunately moved a good deal into Looneyville as of late, at least on foreign policy IMO. Between the anti-Ukraine/pro-Russia side and Lindsay "Let's Bomb Iran" Graham, I mean jeez...
Not trying to diminish your critiques of the GOP, but I would say that it is generally counter-productive to focus on one particular party with words like “Looneyville”. That just implies some degree of personal bias. There is no shortage of things to critique at any given time for either main political party, and foolishness is not inherently democratic or republican.
 

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
Not trying to diminish your critiques of the GOP, but I would say that it is generally counter-productive to focus on one particular party with words like “Looneyville”. That just implies some degree of personal bias. There is no shortage of things to critique at any given time for either main political party, and foolishness is not inherently democratic or republican.
That’s a good summation. We have given the megaphone to fools.
 

FLGUY

“Technique only”
pilot
Contributor
That’s a good summation. We have given the megaphone to fools.
I’ve learned and grown a lot myself by realizing that the vast majority of people who are of the opposite political disposition to me are reasonable people who have reasonable stances on most things. I’m tired of the vocal minority of hyper-partisan individuals being used as the main representation of either party.
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
None
Contributor
That's a pretty simplistic and needlessly confrontational summation of what's actually a very nuanced and well-researched article. I didn't read anything there that said the Marine Corps "wasn't playing nice." In fact, the article specifically says racial hostility and tensions are not the issue, but communication recruiting, and perhaps a bit of empathy are.

I'm playing well behind everyone else in time here. But I suppose this post is my microphone so everyone has to hear what I have to say! ;)

The best NCO I had the opportunity to work with, both in the military and later civilian world, is a black man from western Virginia who was really smart, but also an above average high school football player. He was good enough at his sport to be on the ESPN/NFL top ten prospect running back list.

But then he got his girlfriend pregnant. (She's his wife and an awesome woman).

He didn't know what to do, so he joined the Marine Corps.

Everything this dude touches turns to gold. He knocks the UAV/RPA school out of the park, he's an all star dad, NCO of the quarter, year, century, early promote, completes his bachelors degree in his off time while completing enlisted WTI type stuff.

Dude gets accepted to Cornell's post grad engineering department while we're working for the same civilian company. Of course he goes to Ithaca. He's now a foremost expert on human interaction with automation and AI. He's also kept up with his pilot hours and has his commercial rating.

Why is this important?


So I asked him one more than a few times, "Hey buddy, you're way smarter than I am and are way better at leadership than I am, why didn't you think to go get your degree and be an officer and a pilot?"

His response, " My dad had an 8th grade education and drove a cab. Once I was in 9th grade I knew more than my dad. I didn't even know what an officer was, much less what a pilot was. I knew they existed, but they weren't me." He told me, "You know what Swammi, guys like me simply don't even consider being an officer and a pilot as an option, not because we don't know that they exist, but because I didn't know any officers or pilots, and everyone told me that I could be a great running back in college. No one told me that I could be a pilot. It just didn't exist in my world."

When you look around a flying squadron in the military you see a very middle class, white, male person, who probably has some type of military connection in their family. We all look the same. Why is that?

So yeah, that article and your comments are pretty correct in my limited experience.
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
None
Contributor
the national debt doesn’t matter, so let’s spend our way out of every problem.

It was a Republican president who insisted that his name was on the checks that were sent out to everyone man, woman, and child in this country during COVID that created this inflation problem. Republicans printed 2.3 trillion dollars out of thin air.

Spending our way out of a problem is not unique to Democrats or Republicans, they both do it and they both blame each other for it.
 

Random8145

Registered User
Yes they have, and in the blue corner, we have the pro-Hamas squad, heads broadly in the sand on border control, and the national debt doesn’t matter, so let’s spend our way out of every problem.

Both sides suck equally, and are going down the path of authoritarian rule by force. There seems to be no incentive to come back to center.
Not trying to diminish your critiques of the GOP, but I would say that it is generally counter-productive to focus on one particular party with words like “Looneyville”. That just implies some degree of personal bias. There is no shortage of things to critique at any given time for either main political party, and foolishness is not inherently democratic or republican.
This is actually a little humorous to me in that I apparently gave you guys the impression of being politically biased towards the Democrats???

I have become displeased with the GOP very much as of late but I am absolutely NOT any lefty Democrat either, for the exact reasons you stated, i.e. the nuttery on their side. I am currently a registered Republican but really thinking of changing to an Independent.
 

Gatordev

Well-Known Member
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
I have become displeased with the GOP very much as of late but I am absolutely NOT any lefty Democrat either, for the exact reasons you stated, i.e. the nuttery on their side. I am currently a registered Republican but really thinking of changing to an Independent.

Good for you, I guess?

Who cares what you call yourself. That was the point of their posts.
 

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
This is actually a little humorous to me in that I apparently gave you guys the impression of being politically biased towards the Democrats???

I have become displeased with the GOP very much as of late but I am absolutely NOT any lefty Democrat either, for the exact reasons you stated, i.e. the nuttery on their side. I am currently a registered Republican but really thinking of changing to an Independent.
Neat. I can see you have missed my point completely.
 

JTS11

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
...To the detriment of our country. There are clowns on both sides (Talib/Boebert/etc), but the House GOP is really showing their ass these last few weeks with the speaker shitshow and the threat of a shutdown IMO.
Can someone lay Vegas betting odds on who will be the next Speaker of the House? Maybe there are already sportsbooks that I'm unaware of already laying odds.

I think they should do a unity ticket and coalesce around George Santos. I mean he's from a purple district, so it should be a compromise choice. ?

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