What Happens If You Can't Land on a Carrier?

[TF7325]

I think the PBS documentary Carrier depicted this well.

2:50 it’s Jello from the Fighter Pilot Podcast!

 

[John Laurens]

This concludes episode 7 of John Lauren’s’ random questions.

Stay tuned in a few weeks for episode 8.

LOL..it's a forum to ask questions, right?

But, you get winged before or after being qualified to land on a carrier?

How do student pilot train to land on a carrier? Are there decommissioned carriers that are used for training purposes?

Thx.

 

[Rtjenkins]

LOL..it's a forum to ask questions, right?

But, you get winged before or after being qualified to land on a carrier?

How do student pilot train to land on a carrier? Are there decommissioned carriers that are used for training purposes?

Thx.

If i had to guess I think they use training sites to land on the equipment like pax river etc s. ABEs are stationed there to test equipment and conduct flight ops. Perhaps pilots use that before going on a carrier.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

LOL..it's a forum to ask questions, right?

But, you get winged before or after being qualified to land on a carrier?

How do student pilot train to land on a carrier? Are there decommissioned carriers that are used for training purposes?

Thx.

There’s nothing wrong asking questions… if you can at least put in the homework and research first.

How do Navy Pilots practice aircraft carrier landings before they actually land on an aircraft carrier?

Answer (1 of 32): Practice, practice, practice. Naval Aviators (USN, USMC, USCG) are trained from day one to both fly the glidepath shown by the Fresnel lens (aka the “meatball”, the optical landing system), and also how to land the aircraft with the proper attitude and airspeed as indicated by ...

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[ea6bflyr]

I think the PBS documentary Carrier depicted this well.

14 Bolters and 4 waive offs is a serious night in the bag.

I know several people in the video. Sex was a fellow airwing pilot on my CVW-14 deployment; he was also made famous by UFO/UAP sightings. TC (CAG) was later my boss when he was a RDML; he's now the president at CAL Maritime.

Small world.

 

[jmcquate]

14 Bolters and 4 waive offs is a serious night in the bag.

I know several people in the video. Sex was a fellow airwing pilot on my CVW-14 deployment; he was also made famous by UFO/UAP sightings. TC (CAG) was later my boss when he was a RDML; he's now the president at CAL Maritime.

Small world.

I had an office down the hall from RADML Bull at his final duty station. He had some good stories about making and vetting that series.

 

[zipmartin]

You know you're getting old when CAG in this video was an advanced jet training student when you were an instructor in VT-22 in the early '80's. We gave him the call sign "Potsie", because he looked like Potsie from "Happy Days" back then.

 

[Brett327]

If i had to guess I think they use training sites to land on the equipment like pax river etc s. ABEs are stationed there to test equipment and conduct flight ops. Perhaps pilots use that before going on a carrier.

If I had to guess, you probably shouldn't be guessing and posting something that isn't factual so that people don't gt the wrong idea about how aircrew train for CQ.

 

[Griz882]

I find it interesting that no one has answered the question; “What Happens If You Can't Land on a Carrier?” with the answer…”You get wet.”

 

[Rtjenkins]

If I had to guess, you probably shouldn't be guessing and posting something that isn't factual so that people don't gt the wrong idea about how aircrew train for CQ.

Well the “keyword” is “guess” educated one at that. Since I’m part of the crew that helps train these pilots… further this is an open website, nothing that’s said here would be set in stone unless someone can verify that.. so yes I can guess and post how I please in this website.

2nd the fact that I said “guess” is a clear indication that I’m not sure so the person should be taking it as a grain salt to begin with. What I do know is these pilots use “MY” equipment to do cq trials I literally launch and recover them?

 

[Swanee]

Well the “keyword” is “guess” educated one at that. Since I’m part of the crew that helps train these pilots… further this is an open website, nothing that’s said here would be set in stone unless someone can verify that.. so yes I can guess and post how I please in this website.

2nd the fact that I said “guess” is a clear indication that I’m not sure so the person should be taking it as a grain salt to begin with. What I do know is these pilots use “MY” equipment to do cq trials I literally launch and recover them?

Oh my dear child....

 

[Rtjenkins]

Oh my dear child....

Child?

 

[cfam]

Well the “keyword” is “guess” educated one at that. Since I’m part of the crew that helps train these pilots… further this is an open website, nothing that’s said here would be set in stone unless someone can verify that.. so yes I can guess and post how I please in this website.

2nd the fact that I said “guess” is a clear indication that I’m not sure so the person should be taking it as a grain salt to begin with. What I do know is these pilots use “MY” equipment to do cq trials I literally launch and recover them?

Yeah, so not what happens at all. You’ve worked with test pilots who are testing the catapult and arresting gear systems, not student pilots.

Student pilots who are heading the tacair/E-2 route are trained in either Kingsville, TX or Meridian, MS, and practice at those fields initially (using a painted box on the runway that approximates the size of the carrier’s landing area), then eventually progress to landing on an actual carrier during a carrier qualification (CQ) detachment.

In answer to the OP’s question, these are active carriers that are scheduled to host these detachments, not training carriers. Historically that was the case, but it hasn’t been that way for years.

@Rtjenkins I get that you have fleet experience, but responding with attitude will get you nowhere, especially when you have no clue who you’re talking to.

 

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

 

[Rtjenkins]

Yeah, so not what happens at all. You’ve worked with test pilots who are testing the catapult and arresting gear systems, not student pilots.

Student pilots who are heading the tacair/E-2 route are trained in either Kingsville, TX or Meridian, MS, and practice at those fields initially (using a painted box on the runway that approximates the size of the carrier’s landing area), then eventually progress to landing on an actual carrier during a carrier qualification (CQ) detachment.

In answer to the OP’s question, these are active carriers that are scheduled to host these detachments, not training carriers. Historically that was the case, but it hasn’t been that way for years.

@Rtjenkins I get that you have fleet experience, but responding with attitude will get you nowhere, especially when you have no clue who you’re talking to.

I responded accordingly. I never came in here like “no it all” regardless of where I come/came from. I simply said “if I had to guess” Now, what I won’t do is have someone tell me what I should or how should say in a post especially when it was implied I was for certain in the first place.

Now from the get go, someone with the correct answer could have easily said xyz and I would have replied “ohh that makes since” you don’t get to dictate how someone responds especially when the response was condescendingly.

This is a public forum and that works both ways “you have no clue who your talking to” Regardless of rank, I would never come anywhere on a public site to flex my rank. That is not what leaders do. Whether I’m an E7 and above or not.. that’s distasteful I could imagine..

This conversation can go one of two ways.. ?