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USN The Slow Death Of The Carrier Air Wing - Or a CSAR Threadjack

Jim123

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In the glorious HH-60H, the Flying Spaghetti Monster's gift to Naval Rotary Aviation, one had only to type 3xx [ENTER] to get maritime CHAN xx. HQ was 1xx, SINCGARS was 2xx, and LOS/SATCOM channels had no prefix. The separate modes were invisible to the operator.
You should have tried random things to find easter eggs:

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Brett327

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Vietnam was also a littoral environment, for the most part. That hasn't been the case during 21st century conflict thus far.
 

Flash

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Nice anecdotal tidbit from Vietnam era:

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And AF doctrine at the time prohibited PR at night.

As I mentioned before, that book is an awesome resource for anyone who wants to learn about the history of US CSAR. One interesting tidbit was the completely different ways the Navy and USAF approached CSAR, with the Navy launching their CSAR helos alone and unafraid almost immediately and they did a quick dash and go to pick up aircrew, the vast majority as Brett pointed out were near the cost but there were a couple notable rescues further in. The USAF had a huge rescue group usually consisting of 2 or more helos, HC-130’s, ‘Sandys’ and a whole host of escorts go in to rescue their folks who were usually in the jungle and often in rough terrain.
 
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red_stang65

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Vietnam was also a littoral environment, for the most part. That hasn't been the case during 21st century conflict thus far.

Considering US National Strategy’s emphasis on training for high-end fight against near-peer threat in the PACOM region, it seems like this anecdote supports the idea that PR from the ship is and will be a valuable skill set
 

Brett327

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Considering US National Strategy’s emphasis on training for high-end fight against near-peer threat in the PACOM region, it seems like this anecdote supports the idea that PR from the ship is and will be a valuable skill set
Given the threat, I don't think you're likely to see US helos (or ships) operating in the Chinese littorals.
 
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