So with the risk of this pissing some people off, I am hoping that someone can help shed some light on my thought process here. Currently I am an NFO in a non-tactical aviation job. I am currently growing where I've been planted, and doing well, but I am interested in doing something more tactical.
I came across the blue to green program which seems right up my alley. From researching this board and others, it appears the process is as follows for officers:
Get conditional release approval from CO.
Get conditional OBLISERV release approval from PERS. (DD-368)
Get accepted on the army side to WO aviation program.
And all the forms that go along with that. My current questions are regarding step two, which is getting OBLISERV release approval. I am currently 2 years into my 6 year contract from flight school, and from everything I've read people have said there's been no approvals, but there's been no information or comments from anyone who's actually tried. The most recent I can find are posts on this forum with a guy in the IRR from 2018 and one for an aircrewman who hasn't updated if he was ever approved or not.
I also read the recent NAVADMIN 142/22 which has removed early separation policy.
My current thought on the matter is its unlikely, but I would still like to follow the road all the way to its end. The critical line in the NAVADMIN that I'm seeing is this:
Service commitments such as enlistment contracts, service obligations for accepting permanent change of station orders, advancements, bonuses, training, etc., will be fulfilled.
However, it doesn't state that it must be fulfilled in the Navy (this is a stretch, I know, but hear me out). DoDi 1304.25 states under 3.9. INTER-SERVICE AND INTER-COMPONENT TRANSFERS. the following:
Obligated military service performed before and after an authorized transfer counts toward fulfillment of the MSO.
Also, DoDi Instruction 1300.04 states under 1.2 Policy subsection D. the following:
Release of a commissioned officer, warrant officer, or enlisted member for a transfer in accordance with this issuance will not constitute a release from fulfillment of the military service obligation established by Sections 651, 10145, 10146, 12104, or 12208 of Title 10, U.S.C.; an active duty obligation in accordance with DoD Instruction (DoDI) 6000.13; any other active duty obligation; or any agreement, law, regulation, or policy of the losing uniformed service. Additional military service performed after such transfer will be counted toward fulfillment of a previous obligation.
Is there any truth in the matter if I'm reading this right? Can this be used in a memo to work with the current NAVADMIN? Has anyone heard of someone doing a green to blue recently (in the past 3 years)? What are my next steps, I'm assuming call PERS, but is there danger in doing that? I don't plan on staying in the Navy past my minimum OBLISERV, but I'm sure my command wouldn't be too pleased if they got a call from PERS stating that a NFO is looking to leave, right?
Thanks.
I came across the blue to green program which seems right up my alley. From researching this board and others, it appears the process is as follows for officers:
Get conditional release approval from CO.
Get conditional OBLISERV release approval from PERS. (DD-368)
Get accepted on the army side to WO aviation program.
And all the forms that go along with that. My current questions are regarding step two, which is getting OBLISERV release approval. I am currently 2 years into my 6 year contract from flight school, and from everything I've read people have said there's been no approvals, but there's been no information or comments from anyone who's actually tried. The most recent I can find are posts on this forum with a guy in the IRR from 2018 and one for an aircrewman who hasn't updated if he was ever approved or not.
I also read the recent NAVADMIN 142/22 which has removed early separation policy.
My current thought on the matter is its unlikely, but I would still like to follow the road all the way to its end. The critical line in the NAVADMIN that I'm seeing is this:
Service commitments such as enlistment contracts, service obligations for accepting permanent change of station orders, advancements, bonuses, training, etc., will be fulfilled.
However, it doesn't state that it must be fulfilled in the Navy (this is a stretch, I know, but hear me out). DoDi 1304.25 states under 3.9. INTER-SERVICE AND INTER-COMPONENT TRANSFERS. the following:
Obligated military service performed before and after an authorized transfer counts toward fulfillment of the MSO.
Also, DoDi Instruction 1300.04 states under 1.2 Policy subsection D. the following:
Release of a commissioned officer, warrant officer, or enlisted member for a transfer in accordance with this issuance will not constitute a release from fulfillment of the military service obligation established by Sections 651, 10145, 10146, 12104, or 12208 of Title 10, U.S.C.; an active duty obligation in accordance with DoD Instruction (DoDI) 6000.13; any other active duty obligation; or any agreement, law, regulation, or policy of the losing uniformed service. Additional military service performed after such transfer will be counted toward fulfillment of a previous obligation.
Is there any truth in the matter if I'm reading this right? Can this be used in a memo to work with the current NAVADMIN? Has anyone heard of someone doing a green to blue recently (in the past 3 years)? What are my next steps, I'm assuming call PERS, but is there danger in doing that? I don't plan on staying in the Navy past my minimum OBLISERV, but I'm sure my command wouldn't be too pleased if they got a call from PERS stating that a NFO is looking to leave, right?
Thanks.