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Advice for prospective naval aviator-astronaut?

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
You probably have a higher probability of making enough money to book a flight on Virgin Galactic. Right now it’s $250,000 for a 90 minute flight.
Is that the COVD/2020 price and does anybody know if it's going to get more expensive after the vaccines and the economy bounces back? If I go on a suborbital space tourism flight right now what are my chances of getting the 'Rona from one of the other passengers?
 

alexadb123

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Statistically you have about a 0.05% chance of becoming an astronaut. I recommend finding something you love to do and pursue that. Being a Naval Aviator for a career is something to be proud of in itself.

You will also need a masters or more advanced degree, regardless if you apply as a pilot or mission specialist. Without an advanced degree NASA won’t even look at you. You will also need to get your grades up. NASA can be as selective as they want and they aren’t going to take a candidate that got a 2.5 in college.
This may have been true a few years ago and even today, but to be honest I feel like becoming an astronaut in the future will be more about having the right experience and knowing the right people. With more commercial space companies popping up all the time, I wouldn’t be surprised if it starts becoming less selective in terms of basic qualifications.
 

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This may have been true a few years ago and even today, but to be honest I feel like becoming an astronaut in the future will be more about having the right experience and knowing the right people. With more commercial space companies popping up all the time, I wouldn’t be surprised if it starts becoming less selective in terms of basic qualifications.
A man can dream.
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
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I wouldn’t be surprised if it starts becoming less selective in terms of basic qualifications.

Aim low and see how far that gets you in any astronaut program, NASA or commercial.

NASA upped their requirements to apply on this board from a bachelors to needing a masters degree and they still had almost 15,000 qualified applicants. If you think the requirements will become less stringent you might want to reevaluate the program as a whole.
 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
This may have been true a few years ago and even today, but to be honest I feel like becoming an astronaut in the future will be more about having the right experience and knowing the right people. With more commercial space companies popping up all the time, I wouldn’t be surprised if it starts becoming less selective in terms of basic qualifications.
If I were in your shoes with your background I'd give a really hard look at joining up with the one of the new space companies on the ground floor, and work your way into a capsule. Knock off a strong masters while actually working on space stuff from Day Zero. Boresight on getting to the moon and operating a lunar base. Be the Essential Guy.

The challenges your record presents regarding clawing your way up the space elevator through the bureaucracy of the Trad Space pipeline are daunting.
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
If I were in your shoes with your background I'd give a really hard look at joining up with the one of the new space companies on the ground floor, and work your way into a capsule. Knock off a strong masters while actually working on space stuff from Day Zero. Boresight on getting to the moon and operating a lunar base. Be the Essential Guy.

The challenges your record presents regarding clawing your way up the space elevator through the bureaucracy of the Trad Space pipeline are daunting.
This sounds out of the box but it could be pretty good advice and stranger things have happened.

Think back to the mid-1970s, when the Apollo program had wound down, the last Skylab crew had gone up and come back down, and manned U.S. spaceflight wasn't looking very good. If you wanted to go into space but you weren't either a top military test pilot, or you didn't have mission credentials like a PhD in astrobiology, or you weren't Russian, then perfect hindsight would tell you to start by building a particular, obscure airplane in your garage and fly it to California to show it to the designer... then after about thirty years of hard work you'd get to fly the first privately funded spacecraft on its first flight into space. Not that Mike Melvill set out trying to be an astronaut, but all that is pretty much how it played out, starting with how he got in on the ground floor.
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
I'm currently attending Binghamton University as a chemistry and materials science major. I'm a senior and have one more semester to go. Throughout my life I've always been interested in space and becoming an astronaut...Initially entering college with the mindset that I'd go into research, I now can't see myself doing anything but aviation.

I'm now looking into joining the Navy through OCS with the hopes of becoming a naval aviator and ultimately an astronaut down the line. I've been talking with a current NFO and he referred me to visit this forum.

Weaknessess... Relatively low GPA. I still have 2 semesters to bring my GPA up, but in short, I messed up on a few courses like organic chemistry and calculus, and it really lowered my grades the past couple of years. My GPA was very good sophomore year but started to get lower after that. It is above the minimum GPA required to apply for OCS as a prospective naval aviator (which is 2.5?), but not by a lot.

Does anyone have any advice on applying to OCS with my prospective career in mind? What are my chances of actually getting into OCS and becoming a naval aviator? My long term goal is to become an astronaut, but at this point I'm just striving to one day earn my wings.
I'm going to come out and say it:

If you want to be an astronaut then find a mentor and go full tilt into becoming an astronaut. That starts with getting your GPA up and applying for master's or doctoral programs, not OCS, and getting experience in the industry, not the Navy.

It sounds like your academic credentials don't pass muster for the program and you're looking for naval aviation to erase a bad GPA. It doesn't work like that. A stint in naval aviation is a 10-12 year detour from what you actually want to do, let alone somewhere in there the Navy is not guaranteed to afford you the opportunity to get a resident master's. If your GPA is too low for master's programs and NASA now, it'll still be too low in 10-12 years from now.

Not too many people here can tell you whether you can recover from your poor academic performance or not. A mentor with inside knowledge of the industry can guide you on the path to success or let you know whether the astronaut ship has sailed. This is besides the physical condition hurdle you face for both the Navy and the astronaut program.

This is a 'should I enlist to become a naval officer' type question in a different form.
 
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IwannabeaPHROGdvr69

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pilot
My personal advice is to show up to IFS/API and primary and all throughout let every single person know that you desire to be a jet pilot and an astronaut. This will endear you not only to your peers but also your flight instuctors. Don’t let any negative reactions stop you! Just keep telling everyone!
 
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