Which Marine Officers are more well rounded?

So I was having a debate with a Marine recruiter about officers. We talked about officers that come from USNA, NROTC, PLC, and prior enlisted. He thinks the best officers are prior enlisted, but I begged to differ. What are your thoughts? Does the individual make a good officer and not where they came from?

Are you kidding? A Navy Mid educating a Marine NCO on what makes a good Marine officer. That's fucking rich.

What year are you cumhumper?

$20 says this thread turns into an Academy bash session and gets the big ol' lock.

And midn09, +1

Or turns into another university vs. university thread or an Academy vs. NROTC...which turns into an academy bash session and THEN gets the big ol' lock.

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No wasn't educating him. I told him that I was going through school first then to become an officer. Then he went out and said I need to go reserves first so I can be prior enlisted because they were better.

Clearly good and bad officers aren't a product of individual traits combined with experience, but rather are a direct product of their commissioning source, with each being able to be ranked as incrementally better or worse than the others by long, angry posts typed at 0200 on AirWarriors.com.

The sooner you clowns start the long, angry debate, the sooner we can get the to bottom of this.

*sigh* Do we have to? It's much more fun to laugh at the question and build up the impending debate that will likely peter out when A4s comes in and tells us some old war story or Rocky tells us we're being idiotic, semper fi.

I'd like to keep the laughter going...

I wont be the one to bash this without rational logical thought....so here's the skinny...

Beg to differ if you wish, having opposing opinions is sometimes a good thing....just realize that in this case it sounds like your trying to differ an opinion based on absolutely zero real life experience...the guy your debating has at least been there done that got the t-shirt....you dig?

As a prior enlisted Marine now turned dark side, I'll tell you my opinion is being prior does not make you better automatically, but instead just like anything else in life, the priors have more experience than those who just role in from school....I've seen shitty mustangs (An officer who was prior enlisted), and I've seen God-like Chesty would be proud priors....fact is though I see more of the later than the former, and prior enlisted guys also have seen the Corps. through the eyes of the people you end up leading...so that perspective is usually a good thing....

See, told you i'd be gentle.....

Ask him if General Conway was prior enlisted?

I would quote something from an article I found, but I dont know if it is copyright or not

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2004/12/does_enlisted_t.html

sounds like that recruiter was trying to fill a qouta...

S/F

I would submit that if your "prior enlisted experience" consists of going to bootcamp one summer, and OCS the next, you probably aren't getting the "experience" you want/need and you are unneccessarily putting yourself through a lot of pain (Bootcamp).

...and OCS - Why go through all that when you can just go to the Academy?

Damn skippy!

Prior/non-prior, OCS, OCC, PLC, Academy, WHATEVER. You all suck.

If there was an OCS where 4 marine DIs just kicked you in the face and balls for 17 weeks straight... damn. Now THOSE Marines would be good to go!

Until then... I'm not impressed.

Haha, I thought we called that TBS?

Nah, at TBS you slam your own dick in your door everyday for 6 months...

Ouch.

So why aren't Academy Marine Options supposed to go to OCS? Is the training at the USNA hard enough?

No, it's just that if they send them to OCS, the possible repercussions from their frontal lobotomy and subsequent pampering could kill them and is therefore too much of a risk.