Dallas Baptist College .... 'scuse me .... checked their website ... they're now a University. Publishing can be a great and good thing, I guess ...
Making money can be a great and good thing.......I guess...... I like to do my reserach and was suprised to see that they (PCC) get a lot of money out of the book business, they even put the students to work on it! Apparently that is why they are able to charge a tuition a third of contemporary schools. If you read a bit further too, they don't play nice with some of their contemporaries either. They had a little dispute with Bob Jones U a few years back about the King James Bible........ Interesting place to read about......
Both Berkeley and religious colleges offer their advantages. Obviously Cal has some great professors (16 Nobel Laureates, etc.), but Christian colleges offer a more desirable quality of life and environment. And I am going to crawl out on the generalization limb and say that their students are more respectful on a whole than the punks at Cal. And respectfulness is a desirable trait, one that some of the younger members of this forum should consider attaining.
HO-LEE THREADJACK BATMAN!!! To state the obvious, a major university's academic program is generally going to be recognized as better, or at least more prestigeous, than a Christian school. I'm speaking here of the PCCs, Bob Jones, Liberty, et al., not Notre Dame, SMU, Duke, and other "real" colleges that are supported by religious denominations. Yes, the ancient Aramaic may be to die for, but a degree in Youth Ministry from PCC is not going to open the same doors that even an English degree from Cal Berkeley is. Go to a Christian college if you want to live in that environment. Personally, even as a practicing church-goer, I'd rather rub salt into my urethra than go to college under the PCC rules. If you want to grow spiritually and in understanding of religion, they're the right place. If you want a more conventional education taught by recognized scholars in their fields, go to a normal major institution. Also, recognize that none of the small Christian schools have ROTC programs and that some have accreditation issues that will keep grads from even OCS or PLC-type programs. My advice would be to attend a normal school with a strong program in the major you're interested in, and just hold true to your own religious beliefs while you're there.
Actualy, I would rather go to a good secular University. I am looking into getting a B.S. in Ag from Western Kentucky University; because, after I get out of the mil I would like to back to cattle/goat/horse/hog/etc. farming. Would having a Ag degree hurt my chances of getting a flight slot even if I had good grades? Would it help if I minored in Arospace?
I think you'd be alright. I know plenty of psychology and music majors here. It certainly wouldn't hurt to take some higher math/engineering courses to gain a better understanding, but they teach you all you need to know. In the end, just show that you're well rounded, have good grades and have great interest and you'll be alright.
Well, with all due respect, it's quite obvious that you've forgotten to take your pills again. To the OP: Don't worry about your major, as someone previously posted, major isn't as big of a factor in getting aviation as being a well-rounded person with a good GPA, a good ASTB score (That's where studying math and mechanics would come in somewhat) and an application that shows you're not just a bookworm. Especially activities that you've done that show leadership experience...I'm guessing that those military types like to see leadership in future officers.
Exactly, and in the end study what you want because for some reason if everything falls through you'll at least have your major fall back on. Not only that, you'll do better studying something you enjoy than something you won't.
Come on man, you are giving us Kentuckians a bad name with all this talk of farming...Just go get a business degree....I think it would be a waste of your time to get the AROSPACE minor.....Most Aerospace degree holders I know either overthink everything or are test pilots...and you don't have test pilot as a goal.
I guess they have a better quality of life... if you enjoy homogeneous environments, but that is not the issue I have with your post. The problem I have is that you seem to be assuming that because students at Cal may or may not tend to be more liberal and may or may not subscribe to follow Christian ethics means that they tend to be disrespectful. I mean I'd say somebody like Jerry Falwell is not very respectful of conflicting views. Anyways, Cal students may be opinionated, but the majority are perfectly capable of discussing those opinions in a respectful manner. If you're basing your generalization on kevkwondo, who attacked A4's, I'm pretty sure he doesn't go to Berkeley, and if he does then he is in the minority of student who don't know how to respect others, mainly the people with more life experiences. So yeah, your generalization is way out on a limb.
"The problem I have is that you seem to be assuming that because students at Cal may or may not tend to be more liberal and may or may not subscribe to follow Christian ethics means that they tend to be disrespectful." Students at Cal are more disrespectful (in terms of civil order) than students from any Christian college. As a Cal alum, I remember getting stuck in a riot in my first week there. And then a year later, protestors, both students and locals, shattered the windows and looted a store I worked at on Bancroft Ave. As for the personal element of respect, (the kind the military absolutely demands: the immediate response to an order from a superior, without reservation), UC Berkeley shies away from this. Cal teaches one to have reservations. To question. It works very well in that environment. And it can be done respectfully, but very often was not. This is a generalization, but one that holds up to scrutiny. I lived that life and speak from that experience. Is this a liberal/conservative question? Are liberals less respectful than conservatives? Once again, I would say yes. You may have qualms about Jerry Falwell, but he was not advocating civil unrest/revolution to achieve his goals. Civil unrest and questioning authority, the two proud battle-cries of a liberal, have no place in the military. Of course, blind obedience should not be a military pre-req either. What is required is smart followership, as in following all lawful orders. Back when I was enlisted, my rating was thought of as one of the most liberal in the Navy. Ask folks about linguists and you will get an earful. I remember several people who got a highly regarded DLI education and then later got out of due to conscientious objector status. It po'd me off to no end. I don't call myself a Christian, but if I had to go back to school I would consider a Christian university. As for the homogenous nature of them, I could care less. I am there to learn, not to hear why the white man is wicked and has ruined the world, perhaps even the galaxy. I have been all over the board in terms of politics. But after 9/11, I plunked myself in with the conservatives and have not looked back since. And all I have observed of liberal belly-aching is that they have a hard time in the military.
These are arguably the two strangest paragraphs ever. I'll just put some of my questions down... 1. So you would consider going to a Christian university why again? 2. Would you agree that it is difficult to be exposed to different points of view in a "homgeneous" (your word) environment? 3. What was it about 9/11 again that made you decide to be conservative? I only ask because the even in many ways was apolitical. It seems an odd "watershed event" in your political maturation. 4. What makes you think that political liberalism equates to difficulty in the military again? This kind of goes back to the above question. What does one's political view point have to do with their ability to give/obey/receive orders, let alone their ability to fly an airplane etc... People bitch because they are bitches, not because they are liberal.
Scoober, you just threadjacked the threadjack of a threadjack. I'd say that 9/11 in particular, and the War on Terror generally, IS a defining moment politically. There is a significant portion of this country that is doing all but openly wish for us to lose in Iraq. These people do not even acknowledge that Islamic extremists want to kill us. These people often blame the US and Western Civilization for Islamists' propensity to run airliners into buildings and bomb subways. There's a word for their political slant, and it's not "conservative." I don't have mod powers in this thread, but it needs to be split about 3 ways. It's interesting, but going far afield.
Yeah sorry...I'll reply anywho and if a split is in the works... I agree that the War on Terror has become a political issue...but 9/11 itself isn't. Perhaps a simple clarification of the OP's meaning is inorder...which is what I asked for. It's not a political slant, its a personal slant...and the word is stupid. Believing that we shouldn't fight foreign wars is a political slant, albeit an extreme one, but denying that there is a threat isn't a political viewpoint...its ignorant and stupid.
Answers forthcoming: -1. So you would consider going to a Christian university why again? I already have my BA, my consideration would be for a Masters degree, in a place that is far less chaotic than Cal. And, although I don't label myself as a Christian, I have great respect/love for Christ. -2. Would you agree that it is difficult to be exposed to different points of view in a "homgeneous" (your word) environment? My word was homogenous. Your word does not exist. Seriously though, I am not looking to be challenged verbally in that way anymore. I went to more schools (private/exclusive) than just Cal and lived that experience. NPS is an attractive option as well. -3. What was it about 9/11 again that made you decide to be conservative? I only ask because the even in many ways was apolitical. It seems an odd "watershed event" in your political maturation. After 9/11, I became a one issue voter, and that issue was terrorism. Which party would keep our country safer? And that answer lay with the right. Disagree or not with them, we have not been attacked since 9/11. Working over at Meade, I get to see some of the benefits of a conservative administration. (Patriotic Act, FISA, etc.) Liberals want to dismantle these. I also have worked with many other agencies when I was deployed and got a feel for how those laws assist in fighting terrorism. I am not alone in seeing 9/11 as a political event. Go to conservative blogs, it is often viewed that way by others. -4. What makes you think that political liberalism equates to difficulty in the military again? This kind of goes back to the above question. What does one's political view point have to do with their ability to give/obey/receive orders, let alone their ability to fly an airplane etc... I am not a pilot/NFO, so I have little frame of reference in your world. I work with pilots, though, and look forward in my future to being part of a squadron. One's political orientation does not persay equal ability to conform to the military, but it has been my experience, that liberalism encourages rebellion and the questioning of authority. Both of these are fine in academia, and perhaps even desirable as absolute freedom of thought encourages scientific breakthroughs. But in the military, especially in cryptology/IW, the questioning of authority is not desirable at least at the entrance levels as a JO. Now, I highly respect classic liberalism. But the liberalism I experienced at Cal was almost like fascism. Few other viewpoints were tolerated. And white males were essentially labeled the cause of many problems world-wide. (I was being sarcastic about the galaxy part.) I have heard in liberal camps the idea that the military should be disbanded, that the military is the cause of our poor world-wide perception, etc. I have never heard a conservative utter such. -People bitch because they are bitches, not because they are liberal. I was once engaged to a liberal (and a bitch), so perhaps I have some bleed-over. . .
My ex was a poster child for the "religious right" and she was a bitch as well. Bitches come in all political persuasions. It is easier to get liberals into bed in my experience. :icon_smil
