USNA prep school

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  1. Ice-Goose New Member

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    Hi Im a [high school] senior considering my college options theres no way i would ever get in to the USNA directly. do any off you know about the USNA prep school? how does one apply? what goes on there? does going assure a place at the academy?
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    Never say never... I applied to USNA (albeit 4 times) and went straight there with no prep school and a 1.96 HS GPA. Gaijin went to NAPS I believe, so he can probably fill you in on what goes on at NAPS. Here's how it works: Apply to the Naval Academy. That's it, the Admissions Board determines if you go to the Naval Academy, NAPS or a Foundation School. You can't apply to any of them on your own.

    As with other things in life, nothing is guaranteed. Provided you pass at the academics and the military stuff at the prep school then yes, your spot is assured at the Naval Academy. If your not up to the snuff, then you don't get a spot.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that at this point NAPS is only for varsity athletes, prior enlisted, and minorities - but I could be wrong on this point.

    Apply, the worst they can say is no. Then apply again, and again, and again.
  3. TheBubba 1300 Club

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    You are.

    Most NAPSters fall into one or more of those categories, but there are some exceptions. We had a couple kids in my platoon who were white guys that didn't play a varsity sport.... or at least weren't recruited as varsity athletes.

    @ the OP:

    Like the phrog said: never say never. My first letter from USNA said flat out no thanks, try again next year. Yet a week later, I got a letter saying "Forget what we told you, you can go to NAPS".

    As far as getting into NAPS goes, what phrog says is pretty spot on. You apply to the Academy (this goes for USMA and USAFA as well), and the admissions board tells you if you get straight in, go to NAPS or Foundation.

    If you have any q's about NAPS, shoot me a PM. I went there 2000-2001, so things probably have changed, but I'll do my best to give some A's for your Q's.
  4. RUFiO181 Active Member

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    One of the English professors did an article exactly about that:

    http://www.brucefleming.net/Interviews/wash%20post%20021603.htm

    Oh yeah and for the original poster, NAPS c/o 05 here. I applied to USNA, didn't get accepted straight to the school, but was offered to go to NAPS which I did. Newport is a pretty sweet place, the pay was pretty sweet (~650 bucks as opposed to 200 as a plebe), and I met some awesome friends there. The most important part was by the time I graduated from the program I knew I wanted nothing to do with Annapolis and decided to go NROTC. Too summarize everything, if you get accepted to NAPS, DO IT!!!
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    Geeze, 250? It was $50 a month when I got there....the last real Plebe year. :icon_tong
  6. RUFiO181 Active Member

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    I think thats after they deduct all the "fees" (haircuts, company fees, etc.).
  7. TheBubba 1300 Club

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    You guys are getting 250 as plebes!?!?!?!? WTF? We got 75 for the first couple months, then someone felt sorry for us, and we got a "pay raise"... 100 a month.
  8. phrogpilot73 Well-Known Member

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    You're all overpaid. 50 bones is enough for 4 pizzas a month... That's all I got.
  9. Mav0130 New Member

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    yeah i applied to the academy while I was already a post graduate at a military school in Virginia. When I didnt get a nomination I thought it was the end of the world, but I stayed in college and got involved with the marine corps OCS program and im now contracted as a pilot. Its the best thing ive ever done and now im so happy that I didnt get into the Academy. However, if its what you REALLY want to do, dont let anybody tell you no...keep applying and make your application stand out(start a club, sport, or organization--something along those lines)
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    Me too! What a coincidence.
  10. DanMa1156 Knighthawks

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    250 as a plebe? That's a bunch of crap! I got $100/ month last year and I'm a youngster and get $200/month now... where did you pull out $250?

    Edit: I see you're talking about before deductions... I think before deductions, it's like $864/ month... it's supposed to be like 30% or 35% of O-1 Pay... can't remember the exact %.
  11. RUFiO181 Active Member

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    I thought (before deductions) it was 250. I stand corrected.
  12. Ice-Goose New Member

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    thx for the answers
    I dont really know any thing about appointments could someone explain them to me?
    do you need to be appointed by a senator/congressmen to get into USNA or NAPS?
    how do you go about geting one?
    are senator/congressmen limited giving them?

    btw i said i probably wouldnt get in because is november and the application is due in january i figure it to late to be competive now.
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    You need a NOMINATION from a Senator, Congressman, Secretary of the Navy, President, or Vice President. President is reserved for military dependents I believe, Senator/Congressman/Vice President are competitive. SecNav Nominations are for prior enlisted guys.

    Contact your local senator/congressmen's office and ask them. They each do it differently, but they receive a ton of applicants, so expect almost a full blown applicaiton + interview with them.

    Yup, I'm not sure but I think it's only a handful (or less) per.

    Not necessarily too late to be competitive, but the senators/congressman have probably already made the first cut AT LEAST to who they're going to nominate. You should have been in the running a bit earlier with them...
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    even if you're not going to be competitive the thread is still going to be referenced in the future. If I were you, I would go post-grad to a good military school and apply again. They orgy over that stuff.

    -I believe that the nomination limit is around 4 per academy per member of congress or the house. I could be wrong on that number though, but it is valid to note that there is a limit on every individual academy

    -Almost every senator or congressman has a section on their web page with instructions about how to apply for a nomination

    -Also, there are more stipulations with nominations that I have not seen on this thread. first, any son or daughter of a service member (past or present) who received a medal of honor OR was disabled, killed, kept as a POW, or was declared missing in action will automatically receive a nomination.
    Next, an ROTC superior can nominate a candidate for admission to the academy.
    --of course, this is all explicitly outlined on the academy's website...http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm
  15. RUFiO181 Active Member

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    My congressman had 10 nomination slots open. The process was about the same as any college application: fill out a basic application and write an essay explaining why you want to be there. Some might have an interview, but it depends on your Congressman.
  16. DanMa1156 Knighthawks

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    I think that's bad gouge. The prep school program is a specific program; there are plenty of people who go to real college who come here first. I would avoid the pseudo-military schools, and that sentiment was definitely echoed upon me by my B&G officer when it came time for me to select a Foundation school.
  17. Invictus11 New Member

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    its only $100 a month as a plebe
  18. DanMa1156 Knighthawks

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    Uhhhh where is that coming from?

    And, actually, you get a little over $900/month at all ranks (it's 35% of O-1 with no prior time pay); they just keep a lot of it in held pay for books and uniforms and whatnot until you're a firstie. Either way, you're taxed on the full amount.
  19. biggunsfranklin New Member

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    Only $100 makes it into your bank account as a plebe. The rest goes to paying for your uniforms, computers, books, etc...
  20. exhelodrvr Active Member

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    Computers?! We didn't get no stinking computers!!

    Last class to get slide rules!!
  21. DanMa1156 Knighthawks

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    Semi true... As I said earlier, the rest is kept in held pay which is doled out into a separate "held pay" account (i.e. where your money comes from for your "Mid Card") and assuming you don't use your Mid-card buying tons of stuff (and thereby exceeding what you have in your account) then they pay it out to you eventually; often as an underclass they pay you some sum from your held pay account in April for training supply purposes or at the end of the summer if you're over the minimum credit for your held pay account. Anything left over is paid to you in your first check as a Firstie and what would have been held pay in the past now goes directly to your bank account as Firsties do not maintain held pay accounts. Capiche?
  22. sfrankie08 New Member

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    Thats only partially true. I never used my mid card while I was there (except for the books they made us buy for the mando classes) and I know some people who used it all the time and we all got around the same held pay. The guy down there that handled our pay was never able to explain that to me...or why I alone paid 60$ a month for internet. Either way you get paid plenty enough to go catch a movie and grab dinner on the weekends.

    Going back to original post on thread though - you don't apply separately to NAPS. The board will determine that the first time they look at your app package. I know people that I talked to who were not athletes but still got offers to NAPS or Foundation Schools when I was TAD to the Admissions office 2 years ago. Usually it was for applicants who were weaker in the math/science or whose schools didn't offer Calculus/Physics. No, you don't need a nomination to get into NAPS.
  23. DanMa1156 Knighthawks

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    If you go through your LES it will detail every little bit of it and if you're not sure and you go to the guy they can detail every single charge down to the penny, and if there is an error they'll help you correct it. It's up to you to check your own LES though and find the discrepancies.

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