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USAF Enlisted Pilots, The Right Stuff, Stolen Bikes, AIC, and SWO pipe dreams.
- Thread starter Farva01
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Reconsider.
@azguy something to consider for a moment. The Navy is (can be) a very small place, individual communities even smaller. The more you flame spray here, the more you reveal your true personality. Eventually, your reputation will become known (just as your on-line profile), and you could end up having your real, professional reputaion tarnished as a result.
If you are truly that smart and forward thinking, wouldn’t you want to teach and mentor here instead of your daily dose of ridicule and disrespect?
If you are truly that smart and forward thinking, wouldn’t you want to teach and mentor here instead of your daily dose of ridicule and disrespect?
RadicalDude
Social Justice Warlord
This is even funnier when you realize there are NFOs doing the coolest part of your job (TAO) on ships all over the world. And they fucking hate it.
Nailed it!
sparky
Member
D@mn. Troll much? Did your account get hacked, dude?
Thanks for making it clear I'd never have made it in your Real SWO (tm) world. All this time I was thinking it was my aptitude/skills/grades that kept me from selecting jets (or pilot). Now I see my lack of kill-chain focus led me to not-pilot MPRA/VQ, and not as a single-anchor driver of jets.
I know this is like feeding the Trolls, but I believe the only butt hurt around here is from laughing so hard at your insights and witticisms.
Please keep going ... I've not had this much fun reading AW since Joboy graced us with his wisdom and wit (Baconator, you've done well in the days since the rename!).
For certain missions, my understanding is that there are some functions that only Intel can perform, e.g. target vetting/no-strike list management, weaponeering to minimize collateral damage, phase II BDA. Two related AQDs are 3A1 and 3A2. Reference: http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/noc/NOOCSVOL1/Documents/Manual I 61_PT_D (AQD).pdf
Yeah, I'm RL now so I don't really care about the whole "kill chain" or "warfighter" thing anymore.
Like I said, just trying to clarify a few things and provide context in others.
You URL guys have fun.
Butt-hurt over what exactly? Speaking of butt-hurt, were you molested by an NFO as a child or something?
LFCFan
*Insert nerd wings here*
I think we've reached the "my experience has told me otherwise" / "agree to disagree" point of the conversation. I've noticed both real world and on here that SWOs who have worked as a strike officer but not at a fleet HQ disagree whereas those who have done both agree.
They do, but it's not at all like what CRUDES get from HHQ. We do traditional intel support (threat laydown and so on) but it isn't mission planning per se.
I actually do have an example of something you can't do underway that a CRUDES would need either HHQ or airwing folks do to for you, but don't feel comfortable posting it for opsec reasons. I know that's a lame cop out, but it is what it is. Bottom line: the airwing does receive tasking and support from ashore, but if need be could do literally everything from soup to nuts, and is built that way.
I'm probably one of the few people on here that has experience in the VFA, targeting, and TLAM worlds (to include a real world strike), so I do think I can speak about it far more intelligently than you can, since you haven't claimed experience in any of those areas. Also, you've spent loads of time intruding into intel threads telling the newbies all sorts of bullshit about my career field based on your own lat xfer considerations, so I don't think you've got a let to stand on telling me that I'm out of my element because my nerd wings are different than your water wings. And so far, most of the URL qualified folks on here don't seem to be attacking me.
While I appreciate the nerd-tribe backup, I'll speak to these since I've got the 3A2 (and honestly, why would you even want to jump into this argument? Sit back, read and learn like a good butterbar!). Anyone can do those things, and if you went through JTS you'd see folks from all sorts of communities. In the context of Naval Aviation, intel does all that stuff. In a TLAM cell, weaponeering is done by URL and/or 1830s, for example.
Yup, I get it, we're just dealing with limitations of NIPR-AW. No biggie.
We had a few guys help run the planning side with a Fleet HQ earlier the year. I'll ask around.
For the record, as a helo dude, I spent all of 3/4 of one tour on a USS boat. The rest has been an absolute blast, and I'm now in a community where I'll never see a boat, but I'll see a lot of per diem.
And for my troubles, I got the better part of a million dollars worth of training which will give me the ability to get out in 2+ years, and sit reserve in domicile while making between 150-300K a year for the next 30 years in an airline career, praying no one calls me and I have to fly the dreaded 9 work days a month schedule. All while doing the once a month drill weekend and earning a reserve O-5 retirement to top off my airline pay.
But let me reflect on my poor life choices and how I couldn't have made it as a SWO. If I recall, I know a lot of aviators (and NFOs) who couldn't hack it and ended up a SWO. Never heard of a SWO failing and ending up an aviator... food for thought.
But to top it off, I do like how you call people retards, and then go one to use the incorrect homophone "ordinance". Typo or not, again it's showing your ass. If you're going to be a colossal dick, at least proofread.
I think you need to look up "hubris" in the dictionary and ensure your picture isn't next to it.
Azguy is proud of, and is defending his community. Unfortunately he's doing it in the wrong place, in the wrong way. He over played his hand, stopped digging with a shovel and rented a backhoe. He took the same oath and wears the same uniform (except for the shoes). You all should call a truce.