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Ozarky

Well-Known Member
pilot
Hello all!

Apologies if this has been covered before, I attempted to search but couldn’t find any answers quite concrete or recent enough to feel satisfied. I will take the knuckle rapping if it’s deemed necessary.

My situation is this: I am applying for OCS in February, with hopes of being picked up for SNA. I have told my recruiter that I really am only interested in SNA, but he seems dead set on submitting me for both, telling me that it will hurt my competitiveness if I choose to only apply for SNA. He has also told me that he has had lots of guys that swore up and down they would never take NFO that take it after they have been selected. My main issue with this is that, with my 55 OAR and 6/7/6 ASTB, I know I stand a decent chance of being selected, but the last thing I want to happen is to be picked up for NFO and then turn it down because it’s not what I want, which would then in turn hurt my chances of SNA upon reapplication. I barely studied for the ASTB the first time I took it, and can definitely score higher, but I would rather not have the handicap of having turned down an SNFO slot.

I see lots of folks on here who have applied for strictly SNA and had no problem getting selected, so is it true what my recruiter is saying?

Thanks in advance!
 

BigJeffray

Sans Remorse
pilot
I applied for SNA only and got picked up on the first try thankfully. I think at the time if you failed to select you had to wait 6 months before re-applying. My plan was to apply SNA only every time until I became too old then start putting other designators. By no means is this the right answer, but it was my answer and that's how I would approach it again. This was also like 8 years ago.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Hello all!

Apologies if this has been covered before, I attempted to search but couldn’t find any answers quite concrete or recent enough to feel satisfied. I will take the knuckle rapping if it’s deemed necessary.

My situation is this: I am applying for OCS in February, with hopes of being picked up for SNA. I have told my recruiter that I really am only interested in SNA, but he seems dead set on submitting me for both, telling me that it will hurt my competitiveness if I choose to only apply for SNA. He has also told me that he has had lots of guys that swore up and down they would never take NFO that take it after they have been selected. My main issue with this is that, with my 55 OAR and 6/7/6 ASTB, I know I stand a decent chance of being selected, but the last thing I want to happen is to be picked up for NFO and then turn it down because it’s not what I want, which would then in turn hurt my chances of SNA upon reapplication. I barely studied for the ASTB the first time I took it, and can definitely score higher, but I would rather not have the handicap of having turned down an SNFO slot.

I see lots of folks on here who have applied for strictly SNA and had no problem getting selected, so is it true what my recruiter is saying?

Thanks in advance!

If you only want SNA then only put it down, if you don't care if you are in the front or back then put both, but really no one wants to be stationed with a person who is not happy with what they are doing.
 

Ozarky

Well-Known Member
pilot
If you only want SNA then only put it down, if you don't care if you are in the front or back then put both, but really no one wants to be stationed with a person who is not happy with what they are doing.
That’s my line of thinking as well, but he seems to be dead set on putting me down for both. I get along well with the guy but I guess it’s something I’ll just have to put my foot down on.
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
NFO and Pilot are now a combined goal/quota for recruiting, so recruiters shouldn’t feel pressured to sell one aviation program over the other. No more needing to find X Pilots and Y NFOs, just Aviators.

Don’t understand the 1-2 punch your recruiter is trying to do. If you only want to be a pilot only list pilot.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
NFO and Pilot are now a combined goal/quota for recruiting, so recruiters shouldn’t feel pressured to sell one aviation program over the other. No more needing to find X Pilots and Y NFOs, just Aviators.

Don’t understand the 1-2 punch your recruiter is trying to do. If you only want to be a pilot only list pilot.
Really? How are they going to make that work? They aren't fungible. Just hoping the market naturally fulfills Navy manning requirements?
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Really? How are they going to make that work? They aren't fungible. Just hoping the market naturally fulfills Navy manning requirements?

It actually just kind of works out, there are several who want to be SNA but find out they don't meet depth perception or vision requirements and still want to fly, so they go NFO.
 

zippy

Freedom!
pilot
Contributor
Hello all!

Apologies if this has been covered before, I attempted to search but couldn’t find any answers quite concrete or recent enough to feel satisfied. I will take the knuckle rapping if it’s deemed necessary.

My situation is this: I am applying for OCS in February, with hopes of being picked up for SNA. I have told my recruiter that I really am only interested in SNA, but he seems dead set on submitting me for both, telling me that it will hurt my competitiveness if I choose to only apply for SNA. He has also told me that he has had lots of guys that swore up and down they would never take NFO that take it after they have been selected. My main issue with this is that, with my 55 OAR and 6/7/6 ASTB, I know I stand a decent chance of being selected, but the last thing I want to happen is to be picked up for NFO and then turn it down because it’s not what I want, which would then in turn hurt my chances of SNA upon reapplication. I barely studied for the ASTB the first time I took it, and can definitely score higher, but I would rather not have the handicap of having turned down an SNFO slot.

I see lots of folks on here who have applied for strictly SNA and had no problem getting selected, so is it true what my recruiter is saying?

Thanks in advance!

Unfortunately all recruiters aren’t created equally.

Tell your recruiter that you’re only applying for SNA. If they can’t accept that then you need to start working with another recruiter- whether it’s for the Navy or a different service.
 

AIRMMCPORET

Plan “A” Retired
My son put in last summer for pilot only, and got selected first time around.

Good advice on here, only put in for what you want, or my guess is that if NFO spots are needed more that’s were you’ll end up in.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
NFO and Pilot are now a combined goal/quota for recruiting, so recruiters shouldn’t feel pressured to sell one aviation program over the other. No more needing to find X Pilots and Y NFOs, just Aviators.

Don’t understand the 1-2 punch your recruiter is trying to do. If you only want to be a pilot only list pilot.

Maybe this particular recruiter believes the OP has a good chance of getting NFO if he/she doesn't get SNA for whatever reason. If that were the case, then they might expect a higher likelihood of getting a quota for "aviation", in that the applicant can fail to select SNA, still pick up SNFO and thus still be a quota, where they wouldn't have been had they put down only SNA and not been selected. Unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying.
 
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