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Top 10 Worst Aircraft Ever...

Discussion in 'Military Aviation in General' started by Mumbles, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. OUSOONER

    OUSOONER O-4 Line of sight tasking is real... None

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    I didn't post the pics on here for fear of being banned permanently...but wasn't the F-4 Corsair at risk of being in this group initially?
     
  2. sevenhelmet

    sevenhelmet Did I miss a step? None

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    Still experimental, but I'm surprised nobody thought of this first:

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    FROM THE WEBSITE:
    One of the most unusual aircraft ever to fly from Lakehurst was the Piasecki PA-97 Heli-stat.
    The Heli-stat had been built under a 1980 U.S. Navy contract for the Forest Service to demonstrate economic & ecological potential of heavy vertical air lifters in harvesting timber & other natural resources in difficult-to-get-to terrain. The demonstration vehicle utilized a Navy ZPG-2W aerostat (with a 1-million cubic-foot envelope) and 4 surplus Sikorsky H-34J helicopters.
    Inflating the aerostat envelope with helium to its length of 343 feet
    made the Heli-Stat the largest aircraft in the world (longer than the span of the Hughes flying boat).
    The first free hovering flight of the Piasecki PA-97 Heli-stat was made at Lakehurst on April 26, 1986.
    On July 1, 1986 the Helistat had just completed a test flight successfully & landed at Lakehurst.
    A power loss was noted on the #3 helicopter & the test was terminated & the mooring mast called for.
    Prior to re-mooring a wind shift caused an uncommanded left turn which the pilot could not counteract with the flight controls.
    With a tailwind, no wheel brakes or ground steering a takeoff was attempted.
    The 4 main landing gear which had no shimmy dampers started to shimmy.
    The 4 helicopters started to react to the shimmy with ground resonance.
    As the Helistat finally lifted off, the 4 individual helicopters broke off & fell to the ground.
    One pilot was killed, 3 received serious injuries, one received minor injuries. and the Helistat was destroyed.
    The power loss on the #3 helicopter was traced to a missing throttle linkage correlation pin.
     
  3. hornsfan

    hornsfan happy to be here None

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  4. phrogpilot73

    phrogpilot73 Well-Known Member

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    I don't fly the devil's whirly bird, but I don't see your argument. It's already made a successful combat deployment, is in the middle of it's second, and is an amazingly capable aircraft. Stop buying into the negative hype.
     
  5. FLYTPAY

    FLYTPAY Pro-Rec Fighter Pilot None None

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    The variable wing allows for an aircraft that can loiter for an extremely long period of time, and when it is time to commence an attack on a ground target, the wings go into retard mode, allowing for acceleration to an acceptable attack speed.
     
  6. Flash

    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    I think the verdict is still out, having just been fielded after its lengthy gestation period, hype or not.
     
  7. hornsfan

    hornsfan happy to be here None

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  8. Pugs

    Pugs Back from the range None

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    It's lengthy gestation period was a direct result of Congressional buffoonery. Had they let NAVAIR run the program and funded it as requested it would have been out there on schedule.

    I certainly do not consider it a failure but it's not a raging success yet. Time will tell.
     
  9. Flash

    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Some of the things you pointed out are a bit disingenuous. The V-22 is not a CH-53 equivalent, missions are a bit different (assault transport vs heavy-lift). The O2 is not much of a factor, don't have it in helos either.
     
  10. FLYTPAY

    FLYTPAY Pro-Rec Fighter Pilot None None

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    Yeah but it sure is aerobatic:eek::eek::eek::eek:

     
  11. Flash

    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Cheney's attempt to cancel it and the difficult testing period it had were very large factors. Congressional buffonery was just a part of it.

    That is exactly what I was trying to say.
     
  12. hornsfan

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  13. Pugs

    Pugs Back from the range None

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    Young dog, old tricks :)

     
  14. Flash

    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    You are taking into account the development costs for a radically new aircraft. I am not won over by it, yet, but you are stacking the deck against it.

    And in comparison to the CH-53, it is a lot faster. One thing it has going for it.
     
  15. nittany03

    nittany03 FUBIJAR Super Moderator None Contributor None

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    You're talking out of your ass. Quit while you're ahead. The Super Hornet isn't making the CH-53 obsolete either, because it was designed for a different mission, just like the Osprey.
     

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