This morning's A-pool idiocy...PT Policy and O vs PO open debate

This being the Navy and all, I'm going to go with a definite "maybe" on this one...

In all seriousness...

a) If A-poolers really are that screwed up, then why aren't the stucon officers addressing the situation instead of sending PO2?

b) Sometimes internal JOPA discussions get ugly. But at the appearance of any enlisted and/or most O-4s and O-5s, discussion should cease.

c) (My opinion)--Don't let a sailor get in your face and walk over you. The good ones are professional and won't try. The ones who are disrespectful and disrupt good order and discipline need to be addressed IMMEDIATELY.

d) I'd be lucky to get up in front of my wardroom to criticize them, and finish more than a sentence or two. If you're used to everyone politely hearing you out and taking notes on your powerful insights...good luck.

He wasn't sent to address the situation, he interjected himself into a conversation that was being led (in some sense) by the STUCON ensigns.

Nobody knew there were enlisted people present; he must have been listening from the back of the auditorium and once we knew he was there, it was too late to prevent the situation.

That's what Jersey did - address the situation immediately.

Roger that.

Professionalism is what I scream when I'm immeasureably shit-faced.

ROFLMAO
Now if you are a Marine, you'll puke, crawl, and growl like a Marine.
Well thats how we did it in the "Old Corps" ....... <gg>
Semper Fi
Rocky

Or a Marine may attempt to land nav from waffle house back to the BOQ, meanwhile at the waffle house, his buddies are wondering wtf happened to him . . . Note: the land nav happened post puke/crawl

I think this whole thing is being exaggerated. The one Lt came in and asked us if PT is mandatory. I raised my hand indicating "yes" and so did many others. The Lt said no, it's not, you can DOR. The crowd gave a little chuckle and that was that. A-Pool is saved, not all Ensigns are bag of asses, and the world can continue its normal ways. No one even talks about this in great discussion other than here on the internet. With that, see you tomorrow at PT.

Or a Marine, camouflaged as a giant banana (granted it was Halloween), ends up taking a cab to the Waffle House (in Alabama!) without informing his Fireteam Leader who had set up an LP/OP in his parked car and implemented a rest plan.

Wait, what?

What the hell are you talking about?

What do you mean what am I talking about? I think this whole thing is being way over-discussed.

What the fuck do you mean... what the... THE CHINA MAN IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE. AM2 the other AM2, the one that fucked up. And there is no reason, there is no fucking reason, that he should walk into a JOPA meeting and get all fussy.

AM I wrong, am I wrong.... That JOPA meeting really tied the ensigns together.






Sorry it was just to easy/tempting.

Can we really even call a meeting of us ENS's a "JOPA meeting"?

No. Regardless, there shouldn't have been any paygrade beginning with E in the room if you were bitching, criticizing, or even debating the current policy. It sounds like he made a mistake and his pride got hurt a little bit. Schools command is a weird place with a funky dynamic between O's and E's. He'll get over it, probably already has.

I think Bevo was the first to characterize what occurred as being similar to a JOPA meeting. Not that it was, but rather that it had many of the same characteristics.

Great...

WTF guys? I am heading down shortly. Does anybody mind dropping me a PM so that I know what I am heading into? Thanks.

I pity your computer's spell check...

Spell check wouldn't catch that since it is an actual word spelled correctly. He just used the wrong word.

Christ.....was what Mike said THAT offensive to everyone? Although I do enjoy some serious time off on occasion, there is at least a little truth to what he is saying. Every time I have been anywhere near the line of being in trouble, it was while in a pool status, bored off my ass just waiting to start. Yes we are obligated to be professional in all settings, but it is easy to see how too much time off can get the best of some of us. These guys were class A retards, but if you tone the idiocy meter down about 10 cranks, I can think of at least a couple good professional dudes who have let the idle time get the best of them.

well said

Oh you salty dog.

All of that experience of sitting in stash jobs, just waiting to get in trouble. Be careful, your job might just put you in a situation where you have to much (up to 4 days) free time in far away lands with a little to much cash to burn and to much alcohol. I am not sure you can be trusted with yourself.

HAHAHA. I'm dieing over here. Thanks for that.

Repped.

That is brutal. The friday workday shenanigans, not the monday crucifixions....

Back in my day everyday was friday in A Pool, and friday counted twice. The times they are a changin'

I have always wondered why the Navy and Marines put their guys on active duty the day they commissioned from ROTC. I don't know how the academies do it but the Army and USAF guys at my school were usually did not go on active duty until they reported to their schools, which varied from a few weeks after graduation to a few months since they staggered the report dates for everyone. For example, an Army classmate didn't go on active duty until he reported to supply school in October after we graduated. While it sucked that they were not making O-1 pay to hang around Charleston's beaches, it didn't suck and it seemed to make a lot more sense.

Then again it would take a level of planning and organization that the Navy in general seems to lack.

For the record, Marine officers ARE Naval officers, just not Navy officers - just like Marine pilots are Naval Aviators (as are Coasties).

But yes, I agree with your point.