THE VP DEBATE: Thursday Night Fights, Round 1 ... WHO "WON" .. ???

It was posted by an AP story way back on July 23, that was also printed in the Washington Times.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/23/smiley-faces-blog-anger/

Hell, our Commander in Chief's approval is almost 3x's higher than Congress. As far as the average American knowing this or managing to "take the hint" ... I'm not too confident.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/01/georgebush.congress
http://news.aol.com/article/bushs-approval-rating-drops-to-new-low/195429?icid=200100397x1210298093x1200593720

Wow, can you say "conflict of interest"?!?! She stands to make some extra dough from a Obama election.

Ok, I'll bite......why? That's just a pretty empty statement..

Other than the fact that he looks like Phil Hartman and Charleton Heston had a baby, what do you not like?

If the VPILF thing, (just a heartbeat from PILF), dosn't work out, than maybe she can audition for Jethro Tull!

Palin/Jethro Tull rock-out on inauguration night ...

I really don't think Gov. Palin is going to do well. She delivers a great speech, but when interviewed she is, IMHO, terribly unimpressive.

I agree with A4s though, if she does well tomorrow, dispelling the growing opinion that she's not in touch with international affairs (or anything outside of Alaska), the campaign will receive a much needed injection of support. If she does poorly, then I think Senator McCain's race will be largely over.

My opinion is not an endorsement for any candidate, it is just my assessment of the political situation - an opinion i feel eminently qualified to make, because.

The lowest approval rating since they started polling, which is only since the 30's I believe.

The book is about black politicians in the 'Age of Obama', it is not a book just about Obama. She interviewed black politicians and 'power brokers' across the spectrum, including Colin Powell, for the book.

And she never hid the book, she has been interviewed about it several times since she started writing it.

Then why don't you take that up w/ "both camps" ... neither of which reported it until today ... which is what I referenced. "Both camps". Try to focus. Try to focus ... focus ... you are getting sleepy .... sleepp-p-p-y ... :sleep_125

I've often discovered that when "news" is finally reported in the media -- it's usually "old news" ... that's based on those things I've had personal knowledge of ... :icon_wink

Anyway ... it's all about "appearances" ... if it were a right-leaning "moderator", the Dem's would be having a hissy-fit.

Believe it.

Funny....
she didn't bother interviewing J.C. Watts, Alan Keyes, or Clarence Thomas.

As a matter of fact...I would vote for this guy in a heartbeat over the other clowns!

You don't think it's a coincidence that this is not brought up until the day before the debate, when, as I have shown, it has been public knowledge for at least more than 2 months? Maybe I'm just cynical...

I agree, it's called politics. You can't beat the "everyone's out to get me" mantra.

Do I need to state a reason for opinions?

-Ok you twisted my leg. I think he was a terrible VP pick to start off. Hillary would have been the smart choice. I was very glad that he didn't choice Hillary because I want McCain to win (what did she get, about 18 million preliminary votes?). Also, it magnifies that Obama is trying to make up for his large weaknesses: foreign relations and overall experience. That is a big mistake for someone trying to exemplify change -especilally change from the regular DC politics... --> Now to get to what I don't specifically like about Biden: his experience is not what I would consider "good" experience since he is not so much for national defense (voted against missile shields every time over the last 20 something years) and his foreign relation experience is overblown (I consider him well traveled but not a good diplomat or a stern leading type).

All in all, we are not voting for the VPs and they only slightly factor in people's decisions; however, by choosing Biden, Obama has basically "told me" that he is trying to make up for his very minimal experience and foreign know-how by selecting a very boring man who is still not as good as McCain in either aspect. E.g., it was a bad choice that will cost Obama the election...

2 months?? Public knowledge??

I stay up on this stuff more than most, I imagine ... certainly more than the average Joe ... and TODAY is the first time it popped up on my radar screen ... just sayin' ...

Maybe I need to read the Washington Post more?? I don't think so ... :sleep_125

Not that I really care, but seriously, I was expecting character assassination at the very least, when "I don't like anything abou Biden" is your opener...

Figured you personally hated the guy for some reason.

My point is it's "the camp"s jobs to know the moderator. If they didn't know something that was public and had been printed in The Washington Times (not a left-wing rag) then it's on "the camp"s and not the proverbial "they." It shouldn't be a big surprise that a black political journalist is writing a book about blacks in politics when a major party has the first black presidential candidate.

I'm sure you keep up on this stuff, but I don't think you can know what book every journalist is writing.

Hey, if you want to replace Ifill, go for it. Half of the debate prep is prepping for the moderator and how you're going to respond or not respond to them. Who do you think is going to do better on a completely new moderator, Sen. Biden or Gov. Palin?

It's all a conspiracy! Those media elites report, and they decide! We are nothing but mindless drones, slaves to their choices. And our poor candidate, boxed in and helpless against these ravenous wolves masquerading as the press. Woe is us!!


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It wouldn't hurt.

Bite his balls off and spit em in the mods face, that would even impress ME and would be easier to do playing against the stacked deck thats against her. Should obama get in, we are hosed and you still in the military even more so. Do you REALLY think he's on "your side"?

Sure; I couldn't agree more. But: they don't.

They also don't know: "PPPPPPP" ... a.k.a. the "7 P's" ... a.k.a. "Proper Preflight Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance" ...

Too bad the political "experts" don't know the basics that we live by or die by when we violate them. That's why we -- as military men and women -- rise to the top -- we're the cream. And that's why "they" don't like us ... we're individualists, innovators, smarter than the average bear, and we don't "need" 'em ...

Oh, I read it; I'm just not gonna' read it "more" ...

You might be right: but the McCain campaign maintains they only knew about it on Tuesday, i.e., yesterday. It must be yesterday as I took the garbage out this morning, so that means today is Wednesday ...

Sooooooooooo ... I guess that means they are lying, yea-as ??? And you would KNOW this ... that they are "lying" ... that they "knew about it" .... how ???

Ok, so what I get from this, you are voting strictly on who has the better foreign policy?

Let's pretend, for a second..that I concede to you that Obama is VERY inept in foreign policy and picked Biden to fill that shortcoming (which I don't think is a bad strategy to actually pick a running mate to complement your strengths and weaknesses).....

You have McCain, who said himself, that he isn't an " expert on the economy". As a Republican who is TRYING to find a reason to vote McCain..help me sleep better at night and tell me that McCain picked Palin to assist him in office and give him advice on the economy from her extensive expertise...:sleep_125

If what you say is true...at least Obama acknowledges his weakness and chose someone who will at least help strengthen that deficiency.

Agreed, I feel kind of let down, I was expecting a bastard Filipino child and hush money to keep the mom quiet or something...at the least.

Will the moderator really matter that much? I'm sorry friends, but no amount of coaching is going to cut it. She couldn't even handle Katie Couric. This is going to be about damage control. This is going to be a slaughter.

EDIT: Turned out this was completely wrong. I am surprised and impressed.

There is a reason a President selects a cabinet for himself. The VP is not going to have as much influence on the economic decisions because well quite frankly unless they have their doctorate in Economics they probably shouldn't be dealing with it. As far as foreign policy. Yea it's great when you have a President who's a pro at it....and sometimes it's not so great.

That's why we have a Secretary of State. They help the President with Foreign Policy....unless the President feels that he must be in the front in that arena.

Acknowledging a severe weakness is fine. Acknowledging it to 300 million Americans on public television....maybe not so much.

As far as McCain's ability to lead and make things happen. The story of VA-174 comes to mind. Having heard it from the mouth of a man who was under his command, there is no doubt in my mind that McCain can lead the country back to progression.

I really don't have anything for Obama and I've looked. I don't see anything from him that proves to me he can lead a country of 300 million people through thick and thin. I don't trust him to my CNC.

Regardless of what the media does say or whatnot....it's the people who vote. We will decide. Whatever comes is gonna come whether I or any of us like it or not.

Drive on.