The Great Flight Jacket Thread (wearing/buying Leather, NOMEX, WEP jackets/patches)

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  1. Lt_SNA_USMC Registered User

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    Is there anyone out there who could tell me what flight jacket (green nylon?) is current issue in the Marine Corps. I want to get one, but there are like a million to choose from.

    First off, they all say current issue, but they are all a little different. Secondly, I do not wear aviator glasses. They look dumb on me. Third- I would not have joined the Marine Corps if I did not want to "play grunt" (as you put it) for a while. If all I wanted to be was a "flyboy" I would have joined the Air Force (no disrespect to the Air Force, but that is what they do: fly). And lastly, I wanted the flight jacket for my little brother for a Christmas gift. I could not wear it now -- I'm not active duty, not with any unit, etc, etc. I'd look like a fool. Assumptions, asssumptions.
    Respectfully, Lt. Williamson
  2. Rainman *********

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    People learn right away to ignore Paul.

    Okay. . .the Marines use the standard Navy Flyer's jacket brown leather with fur on top as seen on Top Gun.
    It is made by Schott Brothers and it is known as "Jacket, Flyer's, Intermediate, Type G-1" -- MIL-J-7823(AS)

    Hope that helps. There is also the green nylon working jacket, but it looks pretty ridiculous without a flight suit.

    Semper Fi
  3. Goliath112 Registered User

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    quote"what do you plan on doing? wearing a flight jacket around tbs. don't be that guy. that guy is an idiot"


    funny funny





    man the wait is killing me
  4. FlyFast Registered User

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    Hey Lt. SNA Williamson,how are things going>>> sending my packet real soon, like the reply to your question........your favorite instructor.....so thus far
  5. Rainman *********

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    ah yes. . .aramid. yeah. . not nylon (like a gym bag). . good catch.
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    Look at www.sgtgrit.com. I think Sportys online pilot shop also sells them. Unfortunately, you will pay a premium. When I went to Korea, I bought my little brother a "Nylon" jacket. Heck of a lot cheaper and he did not know the difference. If you want the real thing try the last two websites or if your still in the reserves and listed under DEERs, you can order one from MCEX, NEX or AFFES. The Marine Shop in Quantico also has a website that you can order a jacket. If you live in the cold country, buy the winter weight jacket. It is definitly the right choice. I rarely wore the light weight "spring" jacket. Hope that helps. Frumby

    By the way, the brown, pig leather jacket with the fake fur collar make look great in "CHARLIES" but you will certainly freeze your ass off if you really need warmth vice style. The good thing about both jackets is that it really pisses the grunts off especially if you attend AWS or Command and Staff. The CO of Marine Education Command forbid all aviators from wearing aviation jackets. The next day, all aviators wore their jackets regardless of temp. The CO rescinded the order the following day. It was unlawful and we made our point. There is democracy in the ranks sometimes. Frumby
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  6. ghost_ttu Registered User

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    I would like that show of pride in who you are. Have to be a group movement though, I could imagine one guy does that and his ass would have been kicked through his teeth!
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    that's pretty amazing. Why do you suppose he made the order in the first place?
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    Lt, Like Korea Turkey also makes nice, inexpensive jackets in Turkey. You can order them at this web site popsleather.com They also give a 20% military discount.

    Also, the current issue green flight jacket for the USAF, which I am sure is the same for the Marine Corps is as follows: JACKET,FLYERS, MENS'S SUMMER TYPE CWU- 36P MIL-J-83382C, made from 100% Aramid, manufactued by Creative Apparel Ass. I am sure you will be able to find this in most surplus stores
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    Thank-you all for your replies to my question about the jacket. And joshmountain; I will learn to ignore Paul. Thanks for the insight. Ooh rah! and Semper Fi.
    Lt. Williamson
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    Naval Aviator's Patches, Flight Suit, Uniform

    I know that Naval Aviators place their patches different than the AF guys on their flight suits...

    But which patch goes where?

    And what is the code for the leather jackets for the Naval Aviation? I have an AF A-2 jacket but I am going to sell it and get a Navy jacket.

    I found this information on the net regarding F/A-18 pilot outfit;

    USN F/A 18 Jet pilot outfit consists of these items:

    CWU-27/P Nomex Flying suit. Current issue to USAF, ARMY, USMC and USN aircrews.
    GS/FRP-2 Nomex Flying gloves.
    CSU-13/B/P Anti G-Suit (aka Speed Jeans).
    HGU-68/P Flight helmet with MBU-14/P oxygen mask, complete with CRU-79/P REDAR assembly.
    PCU-33/P Torso harness (aka modified MA-2). This harness is complete with LPA-2/P Live-preserver (complete with CO2 bottles). This setup has been worn by a USN F/A-18 Pilot during Desert Storm. Contents of this vest:

    * SDU-5/E Distress marker light.
    * Shroud Cutter knife.
    * Cyalume Light sticks.
    * PRC-90-1 radio. Has battery but no earphone. Inop.
    * Shark repellent.
    * Signaling mirror.
    * MK-13 Mod O Smoke/Flare Day/Night Signal flare.
    * Whistle.
    * Pen Flarelauncher with Flares.

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    No this isn't me... :)

    Also where can I find VFA patches for sale? Do you know any good online stores?

    Thanks...
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    ea6bflyr Working Class Bum

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    Standard Navy Flight suit is:

    Name Tag {cloth/leather}: Left Chest(over Heart)
    Squadron Patch: Right Chest
    American Flag: Left Arm (Optional)
    Right Arm: Various Patches (Top Gun/Aircraft
    Patch/Weapons School Patch/USN/USMC Patch)

    As far as the Leather Jacket goes, the Navy's requlations are Name Patch & Squadron Patch (Same locations as above)

    If you are interested in getting a VFA Patch, direct your browser to: http://www.lemoore.navy.mil/hornet.html and contact the squadron that you want the patch from or you can even look on ebay or use your favorite search engine. Squadron Patches usually run about 5 US Dollars. Hope this helps.

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  11. Bushmaster Registered User

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    Thanks man, you rock... Navy ROCKS...

    Actually I am interested in this one...

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    And i think the jacket is called G-1...

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  12. wildflyin69 Grad of OCS 187 Charlie Co. 3rd Plt.

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    That looks like my dad's flight jacket from WWII (that's right, my dad fought in WWII, and I'm only 23 years old, my dad's been around for a while :)). He's got some pretty cool patches on there. Of course he was in the Army Air Corps, the predecessors to the Air Force.

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    ea6bflyr Working Class Bum

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    Have a look at this web site:
    http://www.av8rstuff.com/airwing7c.html They have the patch you want for 7.00.
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    Thanks ea6bflyr... :)
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    Bushmaster-

    You are looking for the Nighthawks patch. They are out of NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach VA. I would go directly to the Squadron. It helps them out and it is authentic. Plus it may be a little cheaper. Try calling this number and ask for their PAO (757)-433-9553.
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    Is that the Public Affairs Office? sounds like it... Anyway, thank you for the info Brodie...

    Knighthawks' website is down, I couldn't find any information, does anyone know when or if they are gonna get Superhornets?

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    That is the Public Affairs Officer. He or she is usually in charge of all the geedunk (patches and stuff) the squadron sells. They are way down the list for Superhornets if they even get them. Eventually all hornet squadrons will be Superhornet or JSF suqadrons. All the Tomcat squadrons have to get Superhornets first. Best bet is after 2008 sometime. You never know though. As for the website, they can't sell anything off the website anyways, Navy rule. So calling is you best bet.

    The jacket is a G-1 for the navy. Only Leather patches should be used on that type of jacket.

    Why are you interested in VFA-136? Just for my curiosity. I was in VF-143 for three years as a maintenance officer. All part of CVW-7.
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    Why Knighthawks? I think that is my fave squad from Jane's F/A-18 simulator... I like to have faves [IMG]

    Hmm 2008 sounds good, Lord willing if I become a SNA by then, I may even get to fly with VFA-136...

    Thanks for your help man, I appreciate that!
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    www.oxfordleathershop.com. Their jackets are much better than the real thing.
  19. theblakeness Charlie dont surf!

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    hey what about those nomex flight jackets I have seen. I heard that Navy and Airforce aviators wear those occasionally too.
  20. Brodie143 Registered User

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    Aviators and maintenance personnel wear the green nomex jacket the most, atleast on the navy side of the house. Why get your nice leather jacket all dirty around an aircraft leaking hydraulic fluid and fuel. Plus leather is not a fire retardent material.
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    I personally have worn my NOMEX winter weight flight jacket the most. I think I have only had the opportunity to wear the leather jacket like twice (yeah, rough being stationed in warm weather year round). But, you freeze your ass off sometimes at altitude, and when you end up flying to cold places. Not mention the added trashing of being around hydraulic, oil and other dirt that comes with preflighting and the working around planes....
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    Whats the REAL practice with flight jackets?

    Ok, I've read the uniform regs on flight jackets. But I've seen senior officers wearing Green jackets with khakis (against the reg) and leather jackets with civies (also not specifically authorized in the regs).

    So what's accepted with the wearing of the jackets?

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