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Notorious Nate

Notorious Nate

Well-Known Member
Is is an automatic disqualifier for military service? Can I get a waiver to get in the service, or can you only get a waiver once you're already in and they discover it?
 
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exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Notorious Nate said:
Is is an automatic disqualifier for military service? Can I get a waiver to get in the service, or can you only get a waiver once you're already in and they discover it?
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I have not looked into the N3M guide yet but has N3M turned you down? there are many things that when discovered once in might be waivered but will not if you are not already in.
 
vladivostok391

vladivostok391

Lieutenant, U.S. Navy
BleedGreen said:
After a military facility clears you(whether its MEPS or a branch clinic), your paperwork is submitted to N3M for verification on whether your medically qualified for a commission. If a waiver is needed N3M will handle it accordingly and submit for one. Once they finish their review and waivers come back as approved or not, your recruiter will receive a letter saying your medically qualified or disqualified.
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BleedGreen,

Thank you for the info / clarification, makes sense. Much appreciated.
 
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TimeBomb

Noise, vibration and harshness
N2
Depends. Recommend you check section 8.1 of the Aeromedical Waiver Guide on this website for some details as to where you fall WRT aviation standards.
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Notorious Nate

Notorious Nate

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Doesn't look good. Hemoglobin at level at 13.4. Seems like I need 14 to get PQd and 13.5 for a waiver. Damn. Lifetime dream destroyed by a hereditary blood condition with seemingly no symptoms.
 
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exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Notorious Nate said:
Doesn't look good. Hemoglobin at level at 13.4. Seems like I need 14 to get PQd and 13.5 for a waiver. Damn. Lifetime dream destroyed by a hereditary blood condition with seemingly no symptoms.
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I have had a person that ended up being DQ to a condition they never even knew they had, it does suck.
 
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TimeBomb

Noise, vibration and harshness
N2,
Keep trying. Hemoglobin levels can change a bit with repeated measurements, and you're close enough to a waiverable hemoglobin level to maybe slide in under the tag if your red cells cooperate. The difference between 13.4 and 13.5 is clinically insignificant.
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Notorious Nate

Notorious Nate

Well-Known Member
I think I'm going to see a hematologist and get a lab to take a blood sample and give me all the various blood values. I'll compare them with the published waiverable standards and see where to go from there.
 
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skyshell33

Member
Help! I have a vision question. I apologize if this has been asked, I couldn't seem to find the thread. I completed my MEPS physical last Wednesday and am waiting on the blood tests, etc to come back so I can submit. I am applying for pilot/NFO and hoping to get in for the rolling board this month so I am very anxious to get it in ASAP.

Everything went well at MEPS however I failed depth perception. (Otherwise my eyesight is good - not perfect but just a slight astigmatism and correctable.)My recruiter said it's not a big deal - that several pilots of his had also failed this, and I should go to a civilian doc and get the tests and I should be good to go. What is the story here? If I submitted with the failed test, would I be automatically DQ'd for pilot?? Any advice or info is appreciated.
 
Tycho_Brohe

Tycho_Brohe

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Contributor
skyshell33 said:
Help! I have a vision question. I apologize if this has been asked, I couldn't seem to find the thread. I completed my MEPS physical last Wednesday and am waiting on the blood tests, etc to come back so I can submit. I am applying for pilot/NFO and hoping to get in for the rolling board this month so I am very anxious to get it in ASAP.

Everything went well at MEPS however I failed depth perception. (Otherwise my eyesight is good - not perfect but just a slight astigmatism and correctable.)My recruiter said it's not a big deal - that several pilots of his had also failed this, and I should go to a civilian doc and get the tests and I should be good to go. What is the story here? If I submitted with the failed test, would I be automatically DQ'd for pilot?? Any advice or info is appreciated.
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Yeah, people fail the DP test at MEPS all the time, myself included. You basically just do another test with a civilian eye doc (optometrist, I think) and get him/her to write a letter saying your depth perception is fine, the letter goes in with your application and you should be good to go.
 
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skyshell33

Member
Tycho_Brohe said:
Yeah, people fail the DP test at MEPS all the time, myself included. You basically just do another test with a civilian eye doc (optometrist, I think) and get him/her to write a letter saying your depth perception is fine, the letter goes in with your application and you should be good to go.
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Great to hear. I will get on that. Thanks so much
 
stephenKP14

stephenKP14

New Member
Help!! I recently got selected for SNA this past month. When completing the big physical last December, I barely passed the eye exam with 20/40 in my right eye and 20/30 in my left. Does anyone know specifically, the type of eye test that will be administered when I arrive at API? They gave me prescriptions glasses at the physical and told me to wear them for now on. I was hesitant to do this, fearful that they may make my vision worse. Has anyone heard of a situation like mine before? I feel like all it will take is a small slip up at the eye exam in Pensacola and goodbye SNA spot. :(
 
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Zachary Roecker

Member
To all of those with eye questions/issues, perhaps I can be of some help. I am currently in advanced, flying the TH-57 in Florida, hoping to wing sometime this fall. I failed my depth perception at MEPS, went to the civilian optometrist, aced their test with flying colors, and got DQ'd from SNA slot that I had been accepted for even with the doctor's letter. I took the NFO slot for OCS for summer 2012, failed the dot test there, but passed the fly book test or whatever equivalent test they gave you. Since this technically qualified me for SNA, I put in a request with my drill instructor/class Chief to get re-designated to SNA from NFO. Four weeks later, it was approved and I graduated OCS with a SNA billet. At API, I'm sure you've all heard of the 'NAMI WAMMY' which means you get DQ'd from the eye exam they administer you here. However, they are pretttty lenient with it, if you are on the verge of failing, such as having worse than 20/40, I think they let you retake it. Also, I failed the dot test here again (couldn't even read the first line) but they give you another version of it which most people who fail the dot test pass. They will give you glasses and tell you to wear them while flying, but you keep your pilot slot. I knew a few guys who had 20/50 or so in one eye on their first attempt at the eye test at API, but given enough time and hydration were able to pass it. Basically, use all of your available options before you give up, there are ways around it to keep your pilot slot given enough persistence on your part. Don't accept no for an answer until it is written in stone.
 
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