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Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation (Part 3)

Caesium

Blue is my favorite color
Thanks jarhead.

To the extent it doesn’t violate opsec...what are common destinations for P-3/P-8 deployments? I’ve talked to one or two pilots/NFOs in that community as well as lurked here and I got the impression that Japan and Bahrain are pretty common, and that there are detachments out to other places. I suppose I still don’t really understand how P-3/P-8 deployments “work.” Is it that the squadron is stationed in one country for the deployment and then sends detachments to other countries in the region?
 

Tycho_Brohe

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Thanks jarhead.

To the extent it doesn’t violate opsec...what are common destinations for P-3/P-8 deployments? I’ve talked to one or two pilots/NFOs in that community as well as lurked here and I got the impression that Japan and Bahrain are pretty common, and that there are detachments out to other places. I suppose I still don’t really understand how P-3/P-8 deployments “work.” Is it that the squadron is stationed in one country for the deployment and then sends detachments to other countries in the region?
Yes to the last point. Sig is another common deployment site.
 
sTuPid qUeStiOns About the Blue Angels:

I've been looking at the Blue Angel bios ahead of an airshow (I'm guessing it will shock no one who has seen my post history that I'm that guy :D) and I was just wondering a couple things (purely for curiosity's sake, I have no illusions of ever being one :cool:):

-I noticed the 1-7 pilots obviously all have V(M)FA backgrounds of some flavor (which I could have guessed before reading it) but the NFO XO and the #8 "Event Coordinator" were both VAQ EWOs, which was interesting to me reading it, I'm just curious if that's only permitted for those two positions or, especially with VAQ having transitioned to the Growler, G pilots are/will ever be allowed to try for slots 1-7 or that isn't allowed because the airframes still aren't close enough/that just won't happen?

-There are a couple of late stage LTs on the team who seemed about in the point in their career where from what I've gathered here you'd normally be doing a second sea tour, which I understand is usually not "disassociated" for VFA/VAQ types but you're still out "to sea" while doing it, how does a 2 year stint in the BAs in that time frame work in that master plan scheme or does the Navy just let you off the hook from that (I'm guessing not)?

-On that note, how does being a Blue affect your career trajectory? Is it particularly career enhancing or more of a neutral "thing you did" deal or seen as something that takes you out of the game of the "real Navy"? The Navy PR machine certainly presents them as approaching the best pilots around but I've seen a couple posts here about qualified people not wanting to do it so I was just wondering what the inside scoop was on how it was seen.

Sorry if that's an overly long post/gracias for any answers.

By the way, when are we getting a helicopter demonstration team? ;)
 

Griz882

Well-Known Member
pilot
sTuPid qUeStiOns About the Blue Angels:

I've been looking at the Blue Angel bios ahead of an airshow (I'm guessing it will shock no one who has seen my post history that I'm that guy :D) and I was just wondering a couple things (purely for curiosity's sake, I have no illusions of ever being one :cool:):

-I noticed the 1-7 pilots obviously all have V(M)FA backgrounds of some flavor (which I could have guessed before reading it) but the NFO XO and the #8 "Event Coordinator" were both VAQ EWOs, which was interesting to me reading it, I'm just curious if that's only permitted for those two positions or, especially with VAQ having transitioned to the Growler, G pilots are/will ever be allowed to try for slots 1-7 or that isn't allowed because the airframes still aren't close enough/that just won't happen?

-There are a couple of late stage LTs on the team who seemed about in the point in their career where from what I've gathered here you'd normally be doing a second sea tour, which I understand is usually not "disassociated" for VFA/VAQ types but you're still out "to sea" while doing it, how does a 2 year stint in the BAs in that time frame work in that master plan scheme or does the Navy just let you off the hook from that (I'm guessing not)?

-On that note, how does being a Blue affect your career trajectory? Is it particularly career enhancing or more of a neutral "thing you did" deal or seen as something that takes you out of the game of the "real Navy"? The Navy PR machine certainly presents them as approaching the best pilots around but I've seen a couple posts here about qualified people not wanting to do it so I was just wondering what the inside scoop was on how it was seen.

Sorry if that's an overly long post/gracias for any answers.

By the way, when are we getting a helicopter demonstration team? ;)
The Army used to have a helicopter demo team back in the 1970’s, the Silver Eagles. They were pretty cool and did some impressive things with helicopters. They flew the OH-6 and wore fancy flight suits just like the USAF and USN guys. I saw them back when the Blue Angles flew F-4’s...now that was a show.
 
There was a G driver on the team awhile back; he was the first demo pilot from Whidbey AFAIK. #8 is a TACAIR NFO billet; there have been Prowler ECMOs in that billet in the past.
That's interesting that they've had a G pilot, I just didn't know if they took them. It just stood out to me in the bios that both NFO slots (XO/#8) were out of VAQ but I didn't see any pilots in the current roster so I thought it couldn't hurt to ask.
 

Jim123

molding (warping) the future of naval aviation
pilot
^^^ What Swanee said.

VFA and VMFA are things. Saying V(M)FA as an abbreviation for both is sorta like saying that A/NL baseball players play in the all star game.

No worries. Now you know.
 
It's VMFA or VMFA(AW) for Marine squadrons. The (AW- for All Weather) means it is a D (two seat) squadron, no (AW) means either an A+/A++ or a C (single seat) squadron. V(M)FA isn't a thing.
My bad, I meant they were all out of Navy VFA or Marine VMFA not that I was saying V(M)FA was itself a thing, that's what I get for trying to mix acronyms.
 
The Army used to have a helicopter demo team back in the 1970’s, the Silver Eagles. They were pretty cool and did some impressive things with helicopters. They flew the OH-6 and wore fancy flight suits just like the USAF and USN guys. I saw them back when the Blue Angles flew F-4’s...now that was a show.
I've heard about the Silver Eagles before, I'm given to understand there's no plan to bring them back in my lifetime. :(