Small jet and glider collide near Carson City, NV

Wouldn't it have been the jet's responsibility to avoid the glider?

That's a little scary. I have a few hours in a glider out of that same airport... awesome view of Lake Tahoe.

Think again and check the FARs. Legally the jet has to give way to the glider. But the glider pilot was an idiot since he was at 16,000 feet. Most likely not in contact with ATC or having a transponder. ATC would have just seen him as a primary contact.

Wouldn't he legally be required to have a transponder above 10,000? I don't understand why you say he's an idiot for flying at 16,000 as long as he had the required equipment. But he probably wasn't talking to ATC and who knows if he had a tronsponder. I've never flown a glider so I don't know what most of them have for avionics.

Yes, you are right.

Not the best argument to have AFTER a collision.

Yep. Feels wierd VFR that high, but it's nothing big.

Kinda reminds me of people that yell "Pedestrians have the right of way."

Yeah I used to subscribe to that mantra too.... then I spent 4 hours laying in a parking lot at Embry-Riddle drifting in and out of conciousness.... its not so comforting then.

Second stupidest thing I've heard on AW...i think we all know who still holds a special, coveted place at the top. Granted...only been here a little while...:sleep_125

Good responses by you guys afterwords...thanks for sticking up for us glider pilots and handling the light work.

I guess all 818+ of us who have done the diamond altitude leg are idiots.

Oh...thats right...gliders aren't real aircraft...:sleep_125

Just go do it man...its the best bang for the buck flying there is. Bar none...

Where are you? I can probably hook you up with a club or person.

Here's what else happened today in the glider world of aviation...

The entire story can be found here


Steve's the man...

Best flight in any aircraft, of any kind, I've ever had (so far... ) was in one of these...



Here are some limitations from the certificate...
Limit manoeuvring load factors- +10.0 -7.5 (entire airspeed range)
Vne - 287 km/hr

Just a taste...plus...every flight you get to do some disimilar platform formation flying...Sorry for the blatant threadjack...

I guess since im a glider guy, i will speak up..

As said above, a glider can go up to 18k without any restrictions (talking to atc, transponder, etc.). It is common for gliders to do this especially out west with all the ridge and mountain wave action. If a glider wants to go above 18k, they have to coordinate with ATC and get a 'box' to fly in. All IFR traffic is routed around that 'box'. They don't need a transponder and just need to coordinate with atc when they enter/exit the prescribed box.

Here are pics of the hawker. In the second pic, you can see parts of the glider

Damn....

Out of Control Flight........EXECUTE


Bad day...can't believe the guy made it out...

....can't believe the Hawker made it either

No kidding, that picture of the wing aint so comforting. I can see why the pilot was injured too.

I tend to look at it the other way, I think that the picture shows the durability of the airplane. I'd feel better knowing the aircraft could survive hitting a glider or two.

man, good flying on the hawker end... and nice work getting out safely on the glider end... that must have been some experience.

The field I fly out of is right under a Victor airway and none of the rental gliders have transponders (not required). I've seen some 737s and airbus types pretty close by and thought it was neat. But those pictures kind of make me think that I should wear a parachute while soaring and improve my scans for other aircraft.

ALWAYS A GOOD DECISION!!!

Geez FMRAM, you've suddenly become very popular.

Someone Jealous?