Pilot/NFO Board FY 19- Oct. 2, 2018

[Mainland Mike]

1. Not really - it’s been that way for at least 3-4 years now.
2. Yes.
3. No.

So, this means it's possible his package will not be reviewed by the Pro Board due to administrative processing by the med folks at NRC? Amazing, considering no waiver involved and having the package since Aug 21.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

So, this means it's possible his package will not be reviewed by the Pro Board due to administrative processing by the med folks at NRC? Amazing, considering no waiver involved and having the package since Aug 21.

Which is why getting medical done first is stressed during the application.

 

[colonial-aviation]

So, this means it's possible his package will not be reviewed by the Pro Board due to administrative processing by the med folks at NRC? Amazing, considering no waiver involved and having the package since Aug 21.

It's pretty typical. Whole reason I'm missing this board is because I haven't gotten my PQ letter from N3M yet and they've had my medical paperwork for a month now.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

So, this means it's possible his package will not be reviewed by the Pro Board due to administrative processing by the med folks at NRC? Amazing, considering no waiver involved and having the package since Aug 21.

If N3M sent it back it means that the med people at his command didn't follow or fill out the forms correctly, this is not on N3M but his command.

 

[Mainland Mike]

Exactly. There were some elements left blank on the 2808 (blood work results) even though all the lab work actual results were also provided. He was asked to (1) get the doc to complete the 2808, (2) provide a pdf of his complete USN med file, and (3) all med files related to his Lasik surgery (Portsmouth). Received the request on Sep 6 and provided to N3M Sep 10.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Exactly. There were some elements left blank on the 2808 (blood work results) even though all the lab work actual results were also provided. He was asked to (1) get the doc to complete the 2808, (2) provide a pdf of his complete USN med file, and (3) all med files related to his Lasik surgery (Portsmouth). Received the request on Sep 6 and provided to N3M Sep 10.

I’ll defend N3M (now known as N33 by the way) - which I barely do.

What has been happening is either active duty /prior enlisted applicants completing commissioning physics and not declaring anything, only to open a can of worms once they get to OCS. Once they opened up their MRRS record, they would find disqualifying conditions that should have been declared in the first place. This is where 5 years of records and any other major surgery kicks in.

The current doc is a stickler to the rules and for applicants to be upfront with everything - otherwise she will have you get everything. Multiply your son’s circumstance/record by about 200-300 similar applicants applying nationwide. Additionally, with about a staff of maybe half a dozen, it could take weeks to have a record reviewed.

@NavyOffRec

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Exactly. There were some elements left blank on the 2808 (blood work results) even though all the lab work actual results were also provided. He was asked to (1) get the doc to complete the 2808, (2) provide a pdf of his complete USN med file, and (3) all med files related to his Lasik surgery (Portsmouth). Received the request on Sep 6 and provided to N3M Sep 10.

Drawing from memory here, but what you said makes sense as to why it was kicked back, part of the reason of it being kicked back for 2808 being filled out even when lab reports provided is that when that doc puts his signature on the 2808 he is saying he has reviewed everything on that sheet, otherwise there is no way to prove he actually did review the results.

The lasik documents are a no brainer to be provided, this all screams of your son's command not caring/not reading/cutting corners.

This should be a good lesson for your son's command in that there is always time to do it right the second time!

 

[Mainland Mike]

I’ll defend N3M (now known as N33 by the way) - which I barely do.

What has been happening is either active duty /prior enlisted applicants completing commissioning physics and not declaring anything, only to open a can of worms once they get to OCS. Once they opened up their MRRS record, they would find disqualifying conditions that should have been declared in the first place. This is where 5 years of records and any other major surgery kicks in.

The current doc is a stickler to the rules and for applicants to be upfront with everything - otherwise she will have you get everything. Multiply your son’s circumstance/record by about 200-300 similar applicants applying nationwide. Additionally, with about a staff of maybe half a dozen, it could take weeks to have a record reviewed.

@NavyOffRec

Thanks for the background. I'm a 1981 OCS grad, and well understand an organization being understaffed for the mission. Based on your experience, should he have any expectation of receiving a PQ letter prior to the Oct 2 Board (assuming there are no further questions/concerns), or is the review backload such that a Feb Board should be the target at this point?

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Thanks for the background. I'm a 1981 OCS grad, and well understand an organization being understaffed for the mission. Based on your experience, should he have any expectation of receiving a PQ letter prior to the Oct 2 Board (assuming there are no further questions/concerns), or is the review backload such that a Feb Board should be the target at this point?

a complete application with PQ letter should have been submitted to NRC by COB Aug 21st in order to be seen at this next board, he should have everything complete for the next board by what you have said.

 

[Mainland Mike]

Don't know how we missed this. So there are two sub-processes, the first to submit the medical records for review and eventual PQ letter, and the second the remaining documentation (including the PQ letter) for the Pro Board? This seems contrary to OPNAVINST 14201.B Dec 09, which makes no reference to a PQ letter and states the 2808 and other medical documents are submitted with the application. Is there a more recent instruction?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Don't know how we missed this. So there are two sub-processes, the first to submit the medical records for review and eventual PQ letter, and the second the remaining documentation (including the PQ letter) for the Pro Board? This seems contrary to OPNAVINST 14201.B Dec 09, which makes no reference to a PQ letter and states the 2808 and other medical documents are submitted with the application. Is there a more recent instruction?

CNRC instructions trump the OPNAV.

 

[Mainland Mike]

Can you provide a CNRC reference?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Can you provide a CNRC reference?

On the NPC website there is the checklist that break down everything.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Update: The N33/N3M Doctor has been “reassigned” which explains the delay.

 

[daltonstewart1213]

I am in the same boat as is mentioned above. Submitted packet for the board minus N33 letter. Went to MEPS back in mid-June and now still waiting to see if they will get it but I am not going to hold my breath. If they do not get it, I will be resubmitting my packet for the February board.