Well said ... that's the attitude all of you need to have to "take back" your Navy. At least the social and traditional aspects of it. It never ceases to amaze me how it is that when the seniors get senior --- they forget how it was when they were junior. Maybe too much emphasis on "career" and retirement in the declining Navy years and not enough spent on instilling "traditions" on those who are coming up behind you ... ??? Side note: How many of you know the NUW O'Club (a sorry shadow of what it used to be --- hello?? Hello ??? EA-6 and P-3 drivers ?? ) was originally proposed to be sited on the bluff where the super-spook/listening facility now stands ??? The final blow in the location of the club was $7500 dollars worth of water/sewer pipe. The Navy couldn't afford it, so it was said. Chump change today. Thus, the NUW O'Club is where it stands today, instead of @ 1/4 mile to the NW on the bluff -- which would have been a GREAT location.