New Navy Uniforms Announced

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  1. Dunedan Picture Clean!

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    What if you go overboard in the new BDU's? Seriously, it seems to me that the only place where these'd provide really good camoflage is when you are treading water and yelling at the aft lookout to toss you the ring. Well, maybe if you're trying to hide in a glacier, too.

    And that Army uniform has got the be the gayest thing I've ever seen. Is it for new PC wars? Disable them with laughter?
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    nittany03 We be jammin'

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    Yeah, I love how on the Army one, the rank insignia is velcroed on like everything else. There's a morale booster for ya. ;)
  2. vegita1220 User

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    Have to kinda agree.

    I'm almost positive I'm missing something else here, but I'd always figure that most sailors would WANT to be visible, not blend in.
    And the SEALs/EOD/Seabee combat types should have their own uniforms.

    Hopefully, somebody can clear that up.
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    wink VS NFO. Blue and Gold Off. Former Recruiter.

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    You young pups have likely never seen aviation greens. Maybe someone will post a picture of it for you. It is a great old style traditional uniform for aviation officers only. Looks very similar the USMC green blouse, khaki pants and shirt with a tie. What was nice besides the look, was the soft cover (green piss cutter) and the fact you could shed the blouse indoors and still have collar devices for identification. It wasn't a liberty uniform though. All in all pretty dressed up for a working uniform, but was uniquely aviation and good for office or staff work. How about dress khaki? That was before my time but I have always liked them as well. They started as a aviation only uniform and during WWII was authorized for all officers. As to the new working uniform, they should just stick with the current BDU. With everyone changing to something else the Navy would have a defacto unique look for a lot less money.
  3. Cate Pretty much invincible

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    I realize that this is just the girl in me, but does anyone else wonder that they're spending money on new BDUs with a dozen different options and colors and patterns and pockets and bells and whistles - and the women's uniforms still look like meter maids?
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    nittany03 We be jammin'

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    Some Japanese dude has a site w/ pictures of Aviation Greens, Service Khaki, and other uniforms here. The page apparently didn't translate well, but the pictures are there.
  4. Grandmaster235 World's Greatest Pilot

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    The Aviation Working Green uniform pictured on that Japanese site is pretty old -- basically a museum piece. The modern version has metal wings (not sew-on) and looks very sharp. There are (or at least were) good pics of it in the NEX uniform catalog.

    The service dress khakis were pretty cool too. They are well-represented in "Flight of the Intruder." With the trend going toward less uniforms in the sea bag, all the cool stuff is going away....
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    nittany03 We be jammin'

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    Embroidered wings are, to my knowledge, still optional on certain working uniforms, including Aviation Greens. They still sell them at Abbott's, at any rate. And yes, all the historical uniforms are going away. Hopefully we'll at least keep our leather jackets for the time being.

    Anyway, back on topic, does anyone have an opinion on the various "options" for the NWU?
  5. Grandmaster235 World's Greatest Pilot

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    I'm sure you're right. But I've never seen them worn that way. I've only seen the metal pin-on wings like you wear on other uniforms. Of course, I've only seen less than 10 people ever wear that uniform, in my 8.5 years of active duty.
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    ben not missing sand

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    As far as the NWUs go I prefer the woodland pattern as opposed to digital camo. Other than that I figure that more pockets = better and gray vs blue dominant color doesn't reallly make all that much of a difference.
  6. Grandmaster235 World's Greatest Pilot

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    "Woodland" pattern is better than pixelated
    Pointed collar is better than rounded
    Cargo pocket is better than no cargo pocket
    Tactical pocket is better than no tactical pocket
    Blouse out is better than tucked in
    Round cap is better than 8-point
    Cotton T-shirt better than "performance" (whatever that is)
    No-shine boot is better than shiny (the old aircraft maintenance officer in me talking)

    Does anyone think that this new uniform (if it's implemented) will eventually be prescribed as the uniform of the day at shore/staff facilities the way BDUs are in other branches (instead of service khaki)? Consider the fact that it sounds like the NWU is being designed to be worn off-base (unlike utes and the other "replaced" uniforms).
  7. theblakeness Charlie dont surf!

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    I was gonna say...I have a pic of my grandfather from Korea wearing that uni with the embroidered wings.


    BTW..though I think the new unis are lame, I do like the 8 point cover more then that dumb Army type.
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    As Wink said, I would love to see the Dress Khakis again. They look so sharp.

    I was told by a Marine Major, with extensive German WWII knowledge, that the current MARPAT is based off the WWII Wermacht pattern. Anyone hear that before?
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    Hmm, so now the airforce will be wearing a pointed cover like Marines and everyone will have digital cammies? :banghead_. I guess it was inevitable. The Air Force looks like some kind of blue Vietnam Special Forces and the Army uniform (laugh) looks like something out of Star Ship Troopers.
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    Army looks like they want to be a Special SS... and by special, I don't mean elite.
  9. bch Helo Bubba

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    AWG's are awesome. We had a LT at school who wore them.. God I hope they never completely go away.

    Oh yeah, and this new uniform SUX!!!!!..

    But things are still not as gay as the army... they are in the process of moving away from flight suits and toward aviation BDU's... BDU's with our little arm pocket/pen holder. Their flight students do not even get flight suits issued anymore... LAME
  10. theblakeness Charlie dont surf!

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    I always thought that MARPAT looks more like the Canadian CADPAT. Just me though. :icon_smil
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    Us enlisted folk are already more than capable of that :D

    But on the more serious side.

    I think the uniform change acknowledges a serious problem seen in the enlisted ranks for some time. We are the only service that will not let you wear your working uniform off base. The Army, Air Force and Marines do not worry if they need to stop at a corner store or gas station or anywhere else on the way home. To some this may not seem like a big deal. But to many of the enlisted folk it's like we're second class sailors that should be seen working and nothing else. I have been in the Navy for 8 years and have hated the utilities ever since we got them. The dungarees before them were much better. At least then we had an identity, and it wasn't Jiffy Lube.

    The new uniforms are somthing that will make us stand out as a member of the military. If they allow us to stop at the store at home they will be saying that we're not just part of the working class and they're not ashamed to be associated with us. Anyways, that's my 2 cents.

    Oh, I like the digitals better too.
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    wink VS NFO. Blue and Gold Off. Former Recruiter.

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    Notwithstanding the blue coveralls that have gotten pretty common as a shipboard working uniform for all ranks, the NWUs will erode the Navy tradition of leadership in khaki. The Navy is unique in that our leadership (E-7 and above) wear a completly different uniform from the troops. No other service so identifies their leaders. In the Navy our sailors can always look for the khaki and there is a person to take charge. A very large part of the CPO tradition is putting on the khaki uniform of a Navy leader. While the liberty khaki will remain for now (it will disappear if the NWU becomes a liberty uniform as suggested above), the presence of khaki uniforms on ship in the most demanding and dangerous environments will not be seen.

    I'm for the eight point cover, pointed collar, blouse out, cargo pockets. But I'm really for not spending the money and using the current woodland BDUs if we must change.
  11. Physicx Banned

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    The Air Force is starting to listen.A General said that they might change due to all of the negatives about the way they look.Hopefully the navy does a pole like the AF to get everyones opnions.
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    The Marine Corps has fairly specific restrictions on wearing Cammies or the Bag off base under normal circumstances (excluding dog & pony show stuff)
  12. Vic Your MOM!

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    I like the logo on the breast pocket!
  13. GTIGirlVR6 Registered User

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    I think this new option is GREAT for enlisted...I mean utilities SUCK...and at least 50% were too lazy to use an iron, which made the uniforms look even worse. Not to mention...how many of you have tried to pack a seabag with ALL the uniforms you need for an inspection (cause I garuntee you will have one) and STILL have room either in your bag or in your rack for the $hit you'll actually need for 6 months on a boat?? Not to mention, the old uniforms definitely looked like janiotr uniforms, and were sooo cheaply made that the tore ALL the time! I am really hoping these more practical uniforms come into common use. I however wish that they wouldn't touch the Officer khaki or aviation green, they were nice "distinguished" uniforms that are always nice to have in the arsenal. Thats just my $ .02
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    zab1001 artful dodger

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    Streamline, streamline, streamline. Extra/different uniforms in the seabag equals less room for my PS2.

    In the midst of a seabag pack now, and since I can't get a straight answer from my sponsers, I am subject to packing 2 different sets of mess dress, SDBs, whites, chokers, khakis, and of course 3 different pairs of shoes to go with them (the dress sh!t is for all the grip and grins I'll be doing my first month at my next command). All in addition to flight gear. I love aviation greens and dress khakis as much as the next guy, but the less crap I have to shove into a bag, the better.

    Khakis going away (if it happens), will be a sad day, but we'll all get over it. Hopefully the change will last and guys won't have to buy all new uniforms in 5 years.
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    hey GM how's the lawyering going? my bust. . completely forgot about AWGs. .Thought they went by the wayside like Marine Dress Whites . . AWGs are a nice lookin setup. . for me the less I have to own . the better.
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