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New helo trainer at Rucker?

ChuckMK23

Former H-46 Driver
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Thread bump - any news on the future of helo training? Did any funding make it in the Omnibus? Is the new CNATRA talking about HT's?
 

Gatordev

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Ended up chatting with one of the Air Ops guys at Sun 'n Fun who was helping us move our aircraft. He is a retired Mud Hen driver who now works for Leonardo. Sounded like they were working to make the 119 IFR certified. Will be interesting to see where they go.
 

croakerfish

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Leonardo is present all over NHA Symposium today - clearly full court press time.

Also relaunch of their website - not any less amateurish / cheesy : http://www.advancedhelicoptertrainer.com/
According to that site it's already IFR certified. This seems like a slam dunk. It's single engine, so the maintenance cost will probably be manageable, it can do full autos, has TACAN, GPS/WAAS, full AFCS, and you can even get a hoist and cargo hook off the shelf. I hear it even flies and hovers like a tiny 60. Hell it even has a hover display.
 

ChuckMK23

Former H-46 Driver
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According to that site it's already IFR certified. This seems like a slam dunk. It's single engine, so the maintenance cost will probably be manageable, it can do full autos, has TACAN, GPS/WAAS, full AFCS, and you can even get a hoist and cargo hook off the shelf. I hear it even flies and hovers like a tiny 60. Hell it even has a hover display.
That would assume the selection will be based on logic and reason - politics and optics will play heavily I suspect. Hate to be cynical.

Why the Army went to the UH-72/Airbus 145 is still a puzzle - but some heavy duty lobbying was going on. I don't pretend to understand the acquisition process. They successfully operated the TH-67 Creek for less than half the lifetime the Navy has with the TH-57.

Leonardo has a ready to go airframe. And the company commits to building it in US.

Industry doesn't smell margin / profit on this program - which is part of the problem. So much for Bell being a "partner" ...
 

Gatordev

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According to that site it's already IFR certified. This seems like a slam dunk. It's single engine, so the maintenance cost will probably be manageable, it can do full autos, has TACAN, GPS/WAAS, full AFCS, and you can even get a hoist and cargo hook off the shelf. I hear it even flies and hovers like a tiny 60. Hell it even has a hover display.
The EC/H-135 has two engines unless Airbus is building some sort of one-off version for the Navy. I can see that being a money issue versus a single-engine competitor.
 

Gatordev

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If that's the case, then the 119 isn't IFR certified (yet), which is another hurdle. Of course, if at the end of the day, the Navy wants to grant their own certification, they have that ability.