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Lemoore Is Tough to Get On!
- Thread starter HuggyU2
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Yeesh. That's 5,000±500lbs of metal travelling at who-knows-what speed smashing into a composite control surface linked to the fuselage by a rotating shaft not designed to bear a load in the fore/aft direction. I wonder how much of that force got transferred to the fuselage. I'm not an engineer or a Hornet guy, but I doubt the repair's gonna end up in "R/R horizontal stab."
Also, having walked by many a Super Hornet/Growler horizontal stab and noting the height and shape thereof, that had to have been a grisly ending for anyone in the front seat of that Jeep.
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"You can't make this shit up..."
Also, having walked by many a Super Hornet/Growler horizontal stab and noting the height and shape thereof, that had to have been a grisly ending for anyone in the front seat of that Jeep.
That's what I was thinking as well...not the best part to run into.
I can't speak about Lemoore, but only the bases where I work, it'd be impossible. My only thought is that the security on Lemoore isn't up to today's standards. Even at Fort Detrick the gate guard would just have to push a button to activate 'active' barriers that would pop up in the roadway. There's nowhere to go to the side because of barrier walls, special guardrail, special fences or another type of 'passive' barrier system, giant boulders the size of VW Beetles spaced a few feet apart
. All of these vast security improvements started about ten years ago for the USACE.
. All of these vast security improvements started about ten years ago for the USACE.
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I can't speak about Lemoore, but only the bases where I work, it'd be impossible. My only thought is that the security on Lemoore isn't up to today's standards. Even at Fort Detrick the gate guard would just have to push a button to activate 'active' barriers that would pop up in the roadway. There's nowhere to go to the side because of barrier walls, special guardrail, special fences or another type of 'passive' barrier system, giant boulders the size of VW Beetles spaced a few feet apart
Exactly. This is an incredible embarrassment for the CA Progressives as well as the USN Progressive Command. (Think Left Hand holding crotch and Right Hand Thumb in mouth simultaneously.) The F35 is already here and this is unacceptable. If you try and get on a base and you don't belong, you need to expect to be shot in that 30 foot entry area. Deceased perps Anthony Castillo and Melissa Miller are dead. Good Riddance! Why they were able to get so far into NAS LeMoore, needs to be addressed and corrected. These numbnuts were apparently on parole and didn't want get arrested for being high! LOL! They should have been shot during initial entry. Terrorists have now improved their IQ thanks to these fecal samples. The darn animals have more common sense than the Liberal Progressives that have run aground our Fed Gov't!
It's a total non-sequitur to somehow blame this issue on democrats. Because... I really have no idea - it makes no sense whatsoever.
I am not fully privy to the workings of Safety/Mishaps, so this question could be filed under dumb to very dumb. However, I will dive in with it anyway. Is there any way that the Class A Severity was due to the fatalities of the perps? I would be surprised if the damage was not more than $1 million, but I am simply curious because it was my understanding that the loss of life/permanent disability was only applied to Navy personnel.
I can't speak about Lemoore, but only the bases where I work, it'd be impossible. My only thought is that the security on Lemoore isn't up to today's standards. Even at Fort Detrick the gate guard would just have to push a button to activate 'active' barriers that would pop up in the roadway. There's nowhere to go to the side because of barrier walls, special guardrail, special fences or another type of 'passive' barrier system, giant boulders the size of VW Beetles spaced a few feet apart
Fort Detrick is a certain kind of special do the work they do there but I doubt they're perfect all the time... Base penetrations happen on a semi regular basis even after improvements made post 9/11.
Most of these systems are designed to give an appearance of impenetrability to onlookers during heightened FPCONS, but realistically if someone is hell bent on getting onto a base, there's usually a way. Often it results from vehicles running the gate before the guards can press the nifty magic button that supposedly will solve all the worlds ills. When they're "lucky", the guards will get some rounds off before the vehicle gets away but those rounds don't usually disable the vehicle or its occupants and there are plenty of cases where the guards don't get rounds off.
I can think of one penetration where the car was through the gate before the guard reacted a second where the guards got rounds off to no effect but the car got through before the button was pushed, another attempted penetration where one guard took a round from another guards gun frok a ricocheted and most recently a penetration that resulted in a fatal shooting at another one of those "special" facilities.
So that's what- a 50% success rate at stopping penetration events?
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How is this even an Aviation Mishap? There was no aviation related causal factors.
Or to put it another way, if Seaman Timmy throws a wrench into an operating jet engine and it blows up. And then admits to doing it because he hates America (or whatever intentional reason), per the 3750, it's not a Mishap. It's a deliberate criminal act.
This sounds suspiciously like a deliberate criminal act, so I guess I don't understand how it can be classified as anything.
Bingo, most aren't anywhere as newsworthy as this but this isn't terribly uncommon. Given the size and layout of the vast majority of bases it is a hard problem to 'fix' and it takes a lot of money, and unless your aircraft are painted gloss light blue and white or green and white you likely aren't going to get unlimited funds to do all the security enhancements you want.
But it's a lot easier to say it's Obama's fault.
