Jet questions

Discussion in 'Intermediate and Advanced Training (Jets)' started by sfa_gray, Nov 19, 2005.

  1. sfa_gray SNA Ensign

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    What model of T-45 do they use in Kingsville - A or C? Also, what is the order of the syllabus in jets? I select wednesday at Whiting and am keeping my fingers crossed.
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    Kingsville? Right now the A model, they're getting the C online.

    The syllabus is:

    Phase 1:
    Ground School
    Basic Instruments
    Radio Instruments
    Familiarization
    Airways Navigation
    Formation
    Instrument Rating
    Night Familiarization
    Field Carrier Landing Practice

    Phase 2:
    Operational Navigation
    Weapons
    Tactical Formation
    Night Formation
    2-plane Operational Navigation
    Out Of Control Flight
    Air Combat Maneuvering
    Carrier Qualification

    That's the basic gist of it. Some stages, like Night FAM and AirNav straddle both phases. There is a buttload of solo time in there, about 40 hours for the whole program.
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    So where are you or have you already been through it?
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    I'm in Phase 2, in the Weapons stage.

    Feel free to shoot anymore questions, there are a few of us TS guys on the board.
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    Selection

    I select wednesday at Whiting and am keeping my fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]

    Good luck to you.
    Please let us know how selection goes.
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    rare21 Super Trooper

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    hey gray,

    good luck to you man..i remember when i saw you at the hospital in P'Cola..whatever you get you'll have fun.
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    EODDave Gypsy Roll

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    I thought the Charlie program was up and running in Kville. They had a ton of IP's getting spun up in Meridian about 7 months ago. I know they have C models, other than the loaners from meridian, down in Kville. They were being flown by Kingsville Ip's back in April on the boat det. Was rather funny as some of the Kville IP's didnt know how to use the glass nav system.
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    we're still waiting on a functional C model OFT.
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    EODDave Gypsy Roll

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    Those new sat graphics not woking out on the sims then huh? Oh well. You guys have to have a few C's by now. Are they still just IP birds or are they letting studs get time in them? If you can get a trunk in one go for it. A little different then the A birds.
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    The graphics work, the problem is getting them mating up with what that sim is doing. They then figured that out, kinda, last I heard, the sim would freeze after 45 min for absolutely no reason.
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    EODDave Gypsy Roll

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    Nice. Gota love the gremlins running around.
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    nittany03 We be jammin'

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    And you can never kill 'em all either. Gotta love spending 5min listening to your sim instructor swear at the console, buzz maintenance, etc. With 5 computers in one location running 3 different OSes, I'm surprised the dang thing runs at all . . .
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    I think there are about 10 C-model T-45s here now. The IPs use them as lead jets all the time...I got a few trunk rides to play with the MFDs and check out all the differences. I bet we are still at least six months or so from standing up a stud class in C's but that is just me guessing at it. They are getting new jets here at a steady rate.
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    wink VS NFO. Blue and Gold Off. Former Recruiter.

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    Update the old guy. About how much total time do you "Training System"/T-45 guys log in the various phases by time you wing?
  7. brd2881 Bon Scott Lives

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    yeah..thats about right...I have like 156 hours or so in type..
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    EODDave Gypsy Roll

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    Wink, I'm sure one of the 45 guys can bust out an MCG and give you a breakdown of hours per phase and stage. I tossed out my 45 MCG when I left. The 160 total is about right. If no one else will post it I'll do some digging and let you know.

    Phase I: Bi's, Ri's, Fam, Form, IR and midstage bouncing
    Phase II Onavs, Weps, ACM, CQ

    I dont think I missed anything. If I did, I'm sure someone will let me know.

    Its supposed to be a 9 month program. It is in Kville. It took my class just shy of 2 years. Great way to learn how to fly.
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    Yeah, you did miss a lot. See my previous post. It outlines the stages.

    As for time to train, the T-45C MCG (yes it's different than the T-45A) states 50 calendar weeks. I don't know if the T-45A syllabus is shorter, or if it has to do with Kingsville's double-pump-all-the-damn-time mentality. My class is expected to finish very close to the 50 weeks here in Meridian.

    Here is some hourly breakdown (from the T-45C MCG):

    Total: 157.5 hours
    Night: 24.0 (14 phase 1, 10 phase 2)
    Solo: 40.0 (13 phase 1, 27 phase 2)
    Flights: 125 (157.5 hours)
    Sims: 72 (100.5 hours)
    Classes and CAI: 162 (212.7 hours)
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    EODDave Gypsy Roll

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    Fly give a break down per stage. Ie how many hours for BI's Fam's etc. I was a C guy in Meridian as well. Guys in 9 were getting done in 52 weeks or so. 7 may be now, but it sure wasnt when I was left not ago.
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    Ok cool, I can do that. Wait one.

    TW-1 has changed a lot since you left.... VT-9 is now the fvcked up squadron and VT-7 is chugging right along. No more Advanced guys laying around, all TS now. I started February 28, I will finish in March or earlier.
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    EODDave Gypsy Roll

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    I saw the above. You cant count OCF its 1 flight. And until you get winged it's not me>you it's the other way around. :)
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    Training Summary - Flights

    Basic Inst - 3 flights - 4.5 hours
    Radio Inst - 6 flights - 9.7 hours
    Fam - 13 flights (1 solo) - 15.3 hours
    AirNav - 10 flights (2 solo) - 18.8 hours
    Form - 18 flights (4 solo) - 26.0 hours
    NightFam - 5 flights (1 solo) - 6.2 hours
    InstRating - 3 flights - 5.1 hours
    FCLP - 7 flights (6 solo) - 4.3 hours
    ONAV - 11 flights (1 solo) - 13.7 hours
    Weps - 10 flights (4 solo) - 11.2 hours
    TacForm - 7 flights (2 solo) - 8.6 hours
    NightForm - 4 flights (1 solo) - 5.6 hours
    OCF - 1 flight - 1.2 hours
    ACM - 15 flights (6 solo) - 16.5 hours
    CQ - 12 flights (12 solo) - 10.8 hours

    Training Summary - Sims

    CO - 2
    FAM - 7
    OCF - 2
    EP - 12
    BI - 11
    RI - 7
    AN - 8
    FORM - 5
    NFAM - 1
    IR - 4
    FCLP - 1
    ON - 3
    WEP - 5
    NFORM - 1
    CQ - 3
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    Hahahhaa

    OCF is still a stage it has 2 sims and 1 flight.
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    Fly now your signature is correct!
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    Fly Navy ...Great Job!

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    Don't make me go geek on you, cause I just did.
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    Nice..lol

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