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USN Is Tier 3 College Program even possible?

Ed21

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I'm hearing a ton of talk about how the College Program is going to get cutbacks in Advance Standings and how Sideloads are near impossible to get; and if a Tier I or II can't get a Advance Standing or Sideload, then a Tier III Midshipman has no chance. On the other hand, I've also heard a lot of talk about how the College Program is getting more and more stuff to hand out every year, and that an Advanced Standing is a virtual guarantee if you have above 3.0 in any major and don't majorly piss off your cadre.

Can anyone here with more experience give me an idea about what I'm going up against by enrolling as a Tier III college program midshipman this fall?
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

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I'm hearing a ton of talk about how the College Program is going to get cutbacks in Advance Standings and how Sideloads are near impossible to get; and if a Tier I or II can't get a Advance Standing or Sideload, then a Tier III Midshipman has no chance. On the other hand, I've also heard a lot of talk about how the College Program is getting more and more stuff to hand out every year, and that an Advanced Standing is a virtual guarantee if you have above 3.0 in any major and don't majorly piss off your cadre.

Can anyone here with more experience give me an idea about what I'm going up against by enrolling as a Tier III college program midshipman this fall?

Did you ask your LT/Advisor? If not you should. They're the SMEs with getting a scholarship as a college programmer.
 

Ed21

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Did you ask your LT/Advisor? If not you should. They're the SMEs with getting a scholarship as a college programmer.

I'm still a HS senior. I applied for NROTC 4-year, and got a phone call asking if I wanted to change to a Tier I or II. Replied no, I don't hate myself that much. Not surprisingly, I didn't get selected.

The LT at one of the units I've talked to says that Sideloads are difficult to get if you're a Tier III, but Advanced Standings are given out as long as you have a GPA above 3.0, and that all their Tier III's that needed to be picked up did get picked up. On the other hand, a Midshipman at another unit I've talked to says that several Tier III's with GPA's above 3.0 got dropped last year and "their advisor says" that Advanced Standing is going to get some huge cuts soon.
 

Meow

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You've heard wrong. The NROTC folks have reduced the number of four year scholarships and increased the number of 3 and 2 year scholarships and advanced standing. The best way to receive one of these is through excelling in the college program. My experience has shown that receiving a scholarship as an "unaffiliated student" (i.e. college student not participating in the college program) is next to impossible; receiving one as a college programmer is definitely possible. Our unit had 100% of college programmers accepted for either a scholarship or advanced standing last summer (that said - we had some great candidates). Receiving a scholarship is totally within your control: get good grades, do well on the PRT, and be a positive force within your battalion. Being a tier III major makes it slightly harder, but if you work hard as a college programmer your unit staff will support you and do everything they can to make it happen. Good luck and PM me if you have any more questions.
 

reece

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The best thing you can do for yourself is to join as a college programmer. Be a Tier III major if you want, but if you want to pick up you're gonna want to take calc & physics and pull B's or better. They're really looking for those two things right now, even for advanced standing guys.

Also, you can set yourself apart from other CP by getting a billet, slaying the PRT, and crushing your grades. Make it as hard as possible for the Navy to turn you away.
 

Ed21

New Member
The best thing you can do for yourself is to join as a college programmer. Be a Tier III major if you want, but if you want to pick up you're gonna want to take calc & physics and pull B's or better. They're really looking for those two things right now, even for advanced standing guys.

Also, you can set yourself apart from other CP by getting a billet, slaying the PRT, and crushing your grades. Make it as hard as possible for the Navy to turn you away.

Considering that I've never performed well at all in any math class, do you have any tips to passing Calculus? What concepts are the most important to have a grasp on?

Also, will AP credit count for Calculus completion?
 

reece

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The only thing I can tell you is to dedicate your time to it. Use your resources and get help understanding the material BEFORE you feel like you need it. So go to a tutor after class and work through your homework. Don't wait til it's test time and you don't remember how to take a derivative.
 
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