Instrument Rating Prior to Primary

Discussion in 'Primary' started by Ray-Ban, Jun 20, 2011.

    • Contributor

    scoober78 (HCDAW)

    Member Since:
    Aug 11, 2006
    Message Count:
    2,317
    Ratings Received:
    +719 / 0 / -1
    That's alright...I will. Just when you think you are ahead of the program, they change it...or there is a (Insert least desired platform here) draft...or, or, or....Work hard, Do as well as you can and Uncle will tell you what you are going to fly.

    In all seriousness, work your ass off when its time to work. Party your ass off when its time to party. If you can't tell the difference, $5000 for a cloud card isn't going to help. Comfort in the airplane will help you learn faster, but everything I needed to know, I learned in primary.
  1. AJB37 Active Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 3, 2007
    Message Count:
    315
    Ratings Received:
    +58 / 0 / -0
    True, but is it worth the syphilis?
  2. KBayDog Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Message Count:
    5,089
    Ratings Received:
    +2,638 / 1 / -0
    Sounds like the prequel to this book:

    [IMG]
    • Contributor

    SynixMan Every day I'm chop, chopperin...

    Member Since:
    Mar 16, 2009
    Message Count:
    1,486
    Ratings Received:
    +258 / 0 / -0
    To the OP: ^^ I think this is the point. The guys with prior time I saw seemed to get better grades when the standard was lower in early blocks of phases and sims. The average student starts off bad at stuff and gets better. The syllabus was designed to teach a rock like me to fly from no experience. By the end, everyone meets or exceeds the standards set forth by CNATRA. Some just do it earlier and their grades reflect it.
  3. MasterBates Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    May 31, 2006
    Message Count:
    9,762
    Ratings Received:
    +1,772 / 0 / -2
    And those of us with prior time skipped a lot of the early flights.

    And if all you have flown is a Cessna, the T-34, as much as we mock it here, is going to be a handful.
  4. KBayDog Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Message Count:
    5,089
    Ratings Received:
    +2,638 / 1 / -0
    Unless, of course, you're going to TW5.

    OP: If you've really got half a stack of High Society burning a hole in your pocket, give it to me. I'll put it to good use.

    In the mean time, be a sponge when you get to Primary, and spend some extra time in the sims flying your instrument flights before you do them for score. Once you get the basics of how the needles move, and how to interpret them, the rest is just repetition...and picking good food stops for out-and-ins. (And, most importantly, not sounding like a complete douchebag on the radio.)
    • Contributor

    fc2spyguy HSC-22

    Member Since:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Message Count:
    1,398
    Ratings Received:
    +257 / 1 / -0
    This. If you have done enough planning then the flights should be a breeze. Nothing they throw at you in the sim should be a surprise. The only surprise I got in the sim was when my blue brains blew up on me. Those metal clips suck, change them out for the wire ones immediately. Also, have 3 clips in so when the metal ones do let loose your entire book doesn't go to shit. The only thing that saved my ass was having the instrument departure down cold going in.
    • Contributor

    SynixMan Every day I'm chop, chopperin...

    Member Since:
    Mar 16, 2009
    Message Count:
    1,486
    Ratings Received:
    +258 / 0 / -0
    Sadly, sim time for profsits are not always available. The schedule was full up when I was going through RIs. What's that adage? Timing is everything?
    • Contributor

    fc2spyguy HSC-22

    Member Since:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Message Count:
    1,398
    Ratings Received:
    +257 / 1 / -0
    Well, the riot trainer can help as far as the whole sequencing and timing thing. I know that's how i got point to point and everything else figured out.
  5. KBayDog Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Message Count:
    5,089
    Ratings Received:
    +2,638 / 1 / -0
    Of course, if you want to get an "Above" in Headwork, just tell the instructor, "Screw this airways/point-to-point/arcing nonsense. 'Approach, Navy XXX123 requests radar vectors to a PAR final, full stop.'"

    You'll be at the bar, drinking that $5000 in no time. :)
  6. Ray-Ban FinSel SNA April 2012 (OCS 21SEPT12)

    Member Since:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Message Count:
    212
    Ratings Received:
    +28 / 0 / -0
    All joking aside though, the beers and girls can wait for me. I spent my first two years of college focusing on that and that only in a fraternity, and asides from the several 'hickups' on my record now from it and the extra 300 facebook friends :)$) , it left me with a low GPA to work with when I transferred schools. As stated earlier, there are going to be type-A personalities and over-achievers I'll be put up against during every phase of Naval Selection from now until I get winged, but I'm going to prove, at the very least to myself, that I am the one that wants it the most, and is willing to work the hardest.

    Not trying to sound cheasy, but it helps me sometimes to remind myself of what I'm here to accomplish.
  7. MasterBates Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    May 31, 2006
    Message Count:
    9,762
    Ratings Received:
    +1,772 / 0 / -2
    Don't blame your fraternity for your shit grades. I was in a fraternity and pulled a 3.87 in Mechanical Engineering while maintaining a BAC >.12 for most of the semester.

    Suck less. A private-instrument isn't going to change you by giving you a false sense of not sucking.

    You will have to unlearn most of what you learned.

    Sent via my HTC EVO 4G
  8. ryan1234 Active Member

    Member Since:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Message Count:
    407
    Ratings Received:
    +64 / 0 / -0
    :icon_long That's probably the most impressive thing I've seen on this forum.

    Did you have a bunch of chick teachers you were banging or something?
  9. pharaelga Constantly lost in the sauce....

    Member Since:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Message Count:
    72
    Ratings Received:
    +14 / 0 / -0
    lol it does a bit.... dont be a TOOL and just dont go up to your instructor and state "Make me the best pilot" we've had a kid do that already at IFS and kind of alienated himself as that "guy"... do what ever you can to help those around you if you are doing well... I feel this would probably apply to primary as well but won't speak on it because I'm not there yet....
    • Contributor

    scoober78 (HCDAW)

    Member Since:
    Aug 11, 2006
    Message Count:
    2,317
    Ratings Received:
    +719 / 0 / -1

    It's impressive until you read his signature line.:D

    Only cause I love you Master...:icon_wink
  10. MasterBates Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    May 31, 2006
    Message Count:
    9,762
    Ratings Received:
    +1,772 / 0 / -2
    Did I look like I was bangin hot teachers in college?

    [IMG]

    No. I was making alcoholic drinks out of coconuts.

    I had a 4 beer (stein, so about 8 beers) minimum to work on my thesis. And that's if I was cranking up the test engines.
    • Like Like x 1
  11. MasterBates Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    May 31, 2006
    Message Count:
    9,762
    Ratings Received:
    +1,772 / 0 / -2
    I'm totaly serious too. I have this drunken zen shit with designing stuff or figuring out design problems. When I was an engineer, I had beer on tap in my cube. I produced results, and the managers just steered the customers away from me.
  12. Ray-Ban FinSel SNA April 2012 (OCS 21SEPT12)

    Member Since:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Message Count:
    212
    Ratings Received:
    +28 / 0 / -0
    I was not blaming my fraternity for my grades, I merely said that because of where my focus was I didn't place enough importance on my grades. Some of the best memories I've had in college were with my fraternity bros, but now its time that I get my shit together; thats it.
    • Super Moderator

    bunk22 Super *********

    Member Since:
    Jan 30, 2003
    Message Count:
    3,229
    Ratings Received:
    +527 / 1 / -0
    Being a former primary IP, the above is mostly true. I've always said, there are those who have it and those who don't. If they have it, those students will learn and excel in the end. Those who don't have it, won't, regardless of what ratings he or she has prior to primary. For example, I remembering flying an out and in with a stud who had 450 hours or so, an instrument rating and was just not good. This was a later stage RI as well. I remember he went helo's as his NSS was well below a 50. Not counting the prior NFO's, the best studs I flew with (top 5 off hand) did not have anything but IFS under their belt. They learned quickly and executed the manuevers well, had solid BAW and SA. They had the it factor. Now, if someone has the it factor and has prior experience, they will do even better. A good friend had 2000 hours or so before primary, ended up with an 80 NSS, a 70+ NSS out of advanced in Kingsville and of course has been flying Hornets for years.

    I agree with others, college should be spent drinking, partying and getting laid. Then again, I did that in flight school too :icon_smil
  13. Cron Yankee Uniform Tango

    Member Since:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Message Count:
    380
    Ratings Received:
    +108 / 0 / -0
    That's called the Ballmer Peak.

    [IMG]

    You can replace "programming" with any intellectual venture.

    http://xkcd.com/323/
  14. ryan1234 Active Member

    Member Since:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Message Count:
    407
    Ratings Received:
    +64 / 0 / -0
    Ha! I didn't say anything about hot teachers
    • Contributor

    scoober78 (HCDAW)

    Member Since:
    Aug 11, 2006
    Message Count:
    2,317
    Ratings Received:
    +719 / 0 / -1

    All I think when I look at this picture is "GODDAMN, we are getting old."
  15. phrogpilot73 Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 8, 2005
    Message Count:
    6,830
    Ratings Received:
    +2,254 / 0 / -2
    Not everyone is retardo smart like you...

    Me and a buddy made a pact that we'd be drunk our entire firstie year at USNA. That lasted until our six week grades came out.
    • Contributor

    Swanee Samsonite?! I was way off!

    Member Since:
    Apr 12, 2007
    Message Count:
    1,546
    Ratings Received:
    +306 / 0 / -1

    WTF is a profsit? I would just show up to the sim building around 1400 and sign up for an open sim slot when the sked was posted. Worked out pretty well for me.
    • Contributor

    Swanee Samsonite?! I was way off!

    Member Since:
    Apr 12, 2007
    Message Count:
    1,546
    Ratings Received:
    +306 / 0 / -1

    Maybe you could come back and fix the King Kat- it sits all by it's lonesome. Word is that it's broken. I hope it is- otherwise there is no excuse as to why it wasn't used during the last winging party.

Share This Page