Huckabee vs. Obama?

SERIOUSLY !!??!! SHE DID IT??!! I did NOT know that ... but I knew the lady and I had "something" in common ... we have 5-6 common letters in our three (first-middle-last) names ...

And for Flash and the rest of the lib-confused ... I just think it "ironic" that most MSM don't mention the Senator-who's-not-ready-for-prime-time's middle name ... nothing more, nothing less. Especially when it's a "first" for this country and when we're in a "war" with segments of Islam. Especially when most of the electorate is so ignorant (unfortunately) that they get their politics from a sign on the side of a bus.

Again ... if Barak Hussein Obama were a Republican or just a meany ol' hao'le man ... what do you think??? You do the math.

Sorry for you, Flash ... as young raptor10 is one of the few, the proud, who "gets it".

What's Mike Huckabee's middle name? Mitt Romney's? John McCain's? What was John Kerry's middle name (I volunteered with his campaign, and I can't even remember - something with an F)? Middle names aren't generally considered too terribly germane to the issues discussed during campaign season. The only difference between Barack Obama and the other candidates (in that respect, anyway) is that he happens to, through no choice of his own, have a somewhat more evocative middle name. And the fact that there are plenty of people currently out there making a big ugly fuss about it means it's hardly a closely-guarded secret.

Unc ... that IS the whole point of the "middle name" commentary ... and but for the fact that he's a ultra-liberal DEM ... etc., etc. ... all the rest of the stuff that's already been mentioned.

Mitt Romney's first name is Willard.....so should his C/S be "Rat"??

I'll bet you $20 they're not a muslim-derivative ... which IS the whole point. I guess you just don't understand.

Kerry??? I know it's a "F", as in JFK.

Why WOULD I know what his middle name is without lookin' it up again? He doesn't even know who he is ... he feigned "surprise" when he found out he was Jewish, not 100% Killarney-Blarney Irish :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:.. shades of Madeline Albright (sp)?? Gary Hart(pence) (sic)?

The list goes on ... no wonder the Tribes of Israel were considered "lost".

I think it was "Flip", and then he changed it to "Flop". Then he changed it back again. That way he could claim that he was flip before he was flop.

It would be mandatory if he were in the Navy ....

Oh, wait. You can't be in the Navy when you're a "missionary" in the south of France during the Vietnam War ... :sleep_125

I can't really see that this is some big media conspiracy.

Seriously, are you all that riled up over a middle name? I'd vote for Turd Furgason if I thought he would best represent the country.

"Muslim-derivative," hmm? I don't suppose you mean "Arabic," "Arabic" being a language and "Muslim" being a religion, since Muslims speak all different languages and not all Arabs are Muslim?

And that's the thing -- Barack Obama has a scaaaary Arabic middle name. OOGA-BOOGA! It's not newsworthy because it doesn't mean anything. He didn't ask for it, he didn't change his middle name when he joined al Qaeda, he's not Muslim himself (not that it would mean anything if he were), he's of no relation to Saddam Hussein (or, for that matter, King Hussein, our Jordanian ally). Outside of paranoia on the part of some small segment of the electorate, his name has no more significance in the political spectrum than mine does. And that's why it's not headlining the morning papers.

Turd Ferguson gets my vote!

SERIOUSLY??

No, not "tied up"; just like to point out hypocrisy and duplicity ... but since you want "seriously", I would "seriously" not vote for a political lightweight like the Illinois Senator even if his name were Abraham Lincoln. Oh wait, wasn't THAT Lincoln a congressperson from Illinois??

I guess it's all about timing ...

What's that got to do with anything?? That's weak, Cate, especially since you knew exactly what I referred to .....

You wanna talk "Navy"??? I bet you'd "lip-slip" a WHOLE bunch of times in that arena.

I got the Pope's name wrong when he died, didn't put in the "Paul" part. Someone corrected me on THAT, for God's sake. Does that make me anti-Catholic??? Does it?? Hmmmmmmm ..... ???

Not saying that it has anything to do with anything -- except that I don't really understand what you're trying to imply with "Muslim-derivative." Are you saying that because he has a Muslimmy name, he shouldn't be elected president? If you don't want to vote for him, there are plenty of reasons not to; that one's just really, really weak.

Look, if we were fighting WWII again, (with the current media, stay with me on this one) and there were a Republican running for President versus FDR (a socialist if there ever was one) who was David Adolf Fess, born of German descent, the MSM would be all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake.

If there was a Republican front runner whose name matched/was similar to some 3rd world despot, or a terrorist, the MSM would be all over it today.

One of the reasons I don't have a more "ethnic" sounding name is that my mother and father remember kids in the 50's/60's having "German/Russian/Eastern Bloc" sounding names. And they did not want me and my brother to have to deal with that. (remember, the cold war was still in full swing with no end in sight when I was born)

What parts of the mainstream media do you expect this to play out in? I highly doubt the Wall Street Journal, The Economist, or Reuters would make a big deal out of anyone's middle name. If they did it'd hurt their credibility as journalists.

This is the kind of issue Limbaugh or Olbermann would bring up, idiotic hacks with no credibility.

The MSM isn't bringing this up because it isn't newsworthy IMO.

There have been big deals made out of Romney's religion.. (I don't like him, but its not because he's a Mormon)

If Obama was a Republican, they would be all up in his junk about his name. I don't like Senator Obama due to his voting record. I

I thought I'd make it clear I wouldn't vote for a lightweight lefty like Obama. No qualifiers needed. Period.

I find it hypocritical that the MSM chooses to "omit" that little factoid from his bio (the Husseiny-Muslimmy part) when broad knowledge of that little item could (would??) sway Joe-6-pack and independent voters en mass over to another candidate (or even a Republican, perchance?? *gasp*).

Some would like to see my comments as racially-based. Others as religious-based. That would be strike 1 and strike 2. You're just simply wrong trying to attach "motive" to my comments. It's really simple: main stream media hypocrisy.

For the record: I trained Muslimmy-Husseiny Arabs and Iranians, amongst others of foreign origin. One Kuwaiti Prince liked me so well, he wanted me to "come home" with him and be an adviser/mentor to him. I declined ... but I shoulda taken the watch or at least the rug.

I don't think anyone was accusing you of racial or religious motives; I certainly wasn't. My point was simply that Obama's middle name has hardly been covered up, and that the reason the mainstream media haven't gone nuts over it is that it has no bearing on his proposed policy as a presidential candidate.

As for Mitt Romney, I personally don't care about his religious beliefs -- as long as they wouldn't influence his presidency (I have plenty of reasons not to vote for him, but religion isn't one of them). His religion is discussed in the MSM because it is an issue to a lot of conservative voters and does have potential repercussions should he choose to let his personal beliefs influence the choices he would make as president.

This thread needs a picture...

I guess Hussein prefers the Iraqi national anthem...

Here's the video maybe he just didn't like the singer?
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html

Why would he? He's not Iraqi.

So raptor, just out of curiousity, what does placing your hand over your heart during the Anthem mean to you? Since you posted that picture, I presume you want us to garner an understanding about Obama since he failed to place his hand over his heart.

It is a sign of respect and deference. I don't know what is happening in the picture, I assume either the Pledge of Allegiance is being said or the National Anthem is being sung. Either way, Obamaman (and Amen on A4's characterization of "lightweight". Hit the nail on the head.) is disinterested.

The flag is nothing more than a piece of cloth to some, to others it is a whole lot more. I would like a president who, even if he does not respect the flag and what it stands for, is at least smart enough to show respect for the flag out of respect for those who think it is more than cloth.

You prolly don't get it...

Sir, please don't presume that I don't get it because I asked another poster what his thoughts on the subject were. I asked Raptor my questions because I wanted to understand if he was trying to make a correlation between what had previously been said on this thread about Obama's Muslim middle name and what was happening in the picture. I am asking Raptor to clarify on whether or not he was subtlely making a point that Obama is anti-American. I may have just misunderstood his intent, therefore, I asked.

Alright, I might be wrong on these, so correct me if so, but I won't vote for Obama because he is a socialist with virtually no experience for the times we are in, and also questionable loyalties considering he doesn't wear his American flag/lapel (whatever it was, I forget) or hold his hand up for the Pledge, and belongs to a church that pledges it's loyalty to Africa.

He is a great speaker, like Hitler, and is able to capture the attention of the non-thinking youth (again like Hitler). He is a man for "change" (like Hitler). And Barack Obama-fever is so intense at his rallies, that even people who would never vote for Obama (like Laura Ingraham) have to struggle not to get caught up in it (sort of like how Jews had to struggle not to get caught up in the Nazi fever in Germany even though the Nazis hated the Jews).

I'm not saying that Obama is going to be another Hitler by any means, but he is great evidence that people will vote in politicians for the completely wrong reasons (he looks good, has what to the empty-headed to be good ideas, speaks nice, will supposedly make the world like us, Barack Obama fever is more easily spread than the flu, etc...).

I would feel most safe with Fred Thompson, but he lacks the speaking skills and charisma of the other candidates to win against someone like Obama and Hillary.

I could go for Thompson as a Vice President though.

McCain IMO is too anti-military IMO from what I've seen of his voting record. Romney seems like too much of a flip-flopper, and Giuliani IMO is too much of a gun-grabber. Huckabee I think would lose to Obama, and he is too evangelical for my taste. He also seems too much for big government.