Probably not very smart and/or helpful to be driving around a semi-disaster scene while filming with your phone/video camera. He's clearly obstructing traffic and emergency services and making things more hazardous. All out of morbid curiosity masked as concern for his mom (who he conveniently forgot the moment he got something more interesting to film). Douche.
I hate to say it but they should have never closed NAS Cecil field......this plane would have landed in a bunch of pine trees vs. an apartment complex. They have said that this would happen at that airfield, and it will happen again until they solve the problem of the population around the airfield or close it and move it somewhere else...
It would have made more sense to move Oceana to Cecil - I've heard that the option has been discussed several times recently but can you imagine the amount of money that would be needed now to turn Cecil back in to an NAS?
In a perfect world, but the Norfolk/Va Beach area has been the primary home to the Atlantic Fleet since well before WWII. The synergy of having the air assets there w/ the ships would be lost if the air wings all moved to Cecil. JMHO.
I think it speaks volumes for the changes NAVAIR has gone through in the last 20 years. Most of your TACAIR at one base vs. when I was in CVW-8 in the late 80's we had two Tomcat squadrons and two Intruder squadrons out of Oceana, E-2's out of Norfolk, two F/A-18 squadrons and S-3s out of Cecil, HS out of Jax and our EA-6Bs from Whidbey.
They (the anti-Oceana element), have been hounding the Navy for years, to close/relocate the NAS. They indeed, predicted that this, and more similar accidents would occur. No matter that the NAS was there first, they zoned the surrounding property for heavy-duty housing development, they developed and no reversing that. Sooner or later (several more similar or worse accidents will occur?). When the "bough breaks", and someone has to relocate, you can be sure it won't be the home/apartment/business owners! *NAS Moffett/NAS Alameda underwent samo samo pain as Oceana is now, and today they are nearly abandoned shells of once great Naval Air Stations. BzB
Don't want to get into what ifs and monday morning quarterbacking. But having looked at some of the news, not the actual report yet, I am left wondering if there are engine instruments in the back seat of the Delta bird. I am guessing there is. Will someone please confirm? Separately, again, just the facts, has a classic bug ever been FODed by a blown tire? Debate/comments not necessary. Just rolling it around in my head.
Yeah there is almost nothing else, aside from the absurd e-brake handle which can be accidentally actuated by the most casual of backseaters..................but other than that, there is literally nothing to play with in the back. You could probably host a gymnastics show from back there and still not scare anyone.
Perhaps he's speaking from experience. What kind of "gymnastics" are you referring to? Never mind, I don't want to know. BTW, my post timer says 01:38 for you. I'm guessing 04:38 East Coast? You're a fanatic!
You tell me where you'd rather fly from & pull liberty: (a) Oceana/Va Beach or the piney woods of Cecil Field, or (b) Miramar/San Diego/LaJolla or NAS Lemoore & drinking in pastures? Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done. Doing the same with Oceana would be a DS move of the same magnitude. JMHO, mind you. Guess I'm too old to appreciate the virtues of having nothing to do when you're not flying.
As a guy that has been lucky enough to fly jets from both Miramar and Oceana, I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above.
My wife and I love it in Hampton Roads, and are currently planning to retire here... Those who talk shit haven't been stationed here long enough... And all you spoiled Navy fags have never had to spend time in Jacksonville, NC or New Bern, NC...
Been everywhere, done everything, but.... Worth repeating: "Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done." "Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done." But as a retiree, Marine or Navy, I still get to use their gym, exchange, gas station pharmacy, et. al. just 10 minutes away!
Maybe I read it wrong. I was under the impression he was advocating Miramar/Oceana and telling us how bad Cecil/Lemoore sucked.
Now, Brett, if you're gonna be a professor & a board guru, you really have to brush-up on your grammar. You never end a sentence w/ a preposition, and you never use the same preposition twice in the same sentence for the same purpose. Now, you did get the "whom" part correct. Thankfully, the Department of the Navy transferred NAS Miramar from one member service to another. Fact is, our jets aren't based there anymore, and that sucks.
