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Hornet down in VA Beach

OscarMyers

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Does anybody know if this is any of the developments that were encroaching on or near the safety areas? I recall some years back the Navy threatening to beat feet if the city kept building to close to base.
 

Brett327

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Why do they lock bases down after an incident like this? Is it to keep critical personnel around to aid in the investigation/aftermath?
Bases don't go on "lock down" (whatever that means) after a mishap.
 

Brett327

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Also, common misconception: You don't dump fuel to lessen the fire danger. It's a gross weight issue.
 

Reconjoe

Active Member
I like how in the CNN article, some guy claims he heard the commotion, rushed to the scene, and found a pilot still strapped to his seat....silly excited bystander with a faulty memory?
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Does anybody know if this is any of the developments that were encroaching on or near the safety areas? I recall some years back the Navy threatening to beat feet if the city kept building to close to base.

Which ones would those be? Perhaps the 300 strip malls, or 5000 apartment complexes, or even the eleventy billion homes that start one mile from the runway in all directions, and end at the beach? I am not familiar with the safety areas, so I can't say for sure....
 

exNavyOffRec

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there's no rivercity "switch" for a physical squadron building like there is for a ship.

In general it seemed that everytime they would announce to set "rivercity" on the carrier it was followed a bit after by the CO talking about an aircraft incident. I completely understand why they do this though, last thing I would want is someones wife/husband finding out via email of something happening to her/his husband/wife.
 

pourts

former Marine F/A-18 pilot & FAC, current MBA stud
pilot
Which ones would those be? Perhaps the 300 strip malls, or 5000 apartment complexes, or even the eleventy billion homes that start one mile from the runway in all directions, and end at the beach? I am not familiar with the safety areas, so I can't say for sure....

The only time I have flown into Oceana was at night on a BINGO profile from USS Ship. I aimed for the dark spot. Eventually a runway appeared. I am guessing Miramar is the same way.
 

Recovering LSO

Suck Less
pilot
Contributor
Which ones would those be? Perhaps the 300 strip malls, or 5000 apartment complexes, or even the eleventy billion homes that start one mile from the runway in all directions, and end at the beach? I am not familiar with the safety areas, so I can't say for sure....
click here and scroll down...
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
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Contributor
I like how in the CNN article, some guy claims he heard the commotion, rushed to the scene, and found a pilot still strapped to his seat....silly excited bystander with a faulty memory?


Probably still connected to the seat pan, they just didn't know the difference. You only get a couple of swings in the chute (if that) at low alt. Not much time for those IROK procedures.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
The only time I have flown into Oceana was at night on a BINGO profile from USS Ship. I aimed for the dark spot. Eventually a runway appeared. I am guessing Miramar is the same way.

Miramar was a little better. Basically clear completely to the east, but with a ton of development to the west. This scenario would have been just as ugly there, though you had a few more options in and around the pattern there if you weren't going to make it to the beach. That and as a rule, we took problem aircraft that needed traps back for the NZY RWY 36 straight in, which kept you completely over-water the entire time.
 
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