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FY 19 IWC DCO BOARD

Crippy011

Secret Squirrel
#61
I was one of the last people waived from the IP Basic Course. From what I was told they were no longer accepting waivers without Flag Officer approval. And, to get in front of the Flag for approval, you had better show that you have significant comms experience. In sum, every IP will attend the new active duty IP course.

I did not realize an additional service commitment.
Wonder if they would do this for other communities, especially CWO.
 

Hair Warrior

New Member
Contributor
#62
Wonder if they would do this for other communities, especially CWO.
Not likely. The Navy made it clear in a new NAVCRUIT 1131/154, rev 05/2016, that requires 18X5 applicants sign a service agreement before commissioning. The only 18X5 officer basic course I have seen being waived "regularly" is reserve NIOBC phase 1, and then the only waiver recipients are prior enlisted Navy IS ratings with EIDWS pin and intel A school. And, that waiver still doesn't get you out of NIOBC phase 2.
 
#63
@bubblehead Thanks, I spoke to my recruiter today and added intel as a secondary. Several officers I interviewed with last year told my lack of a stem degree even with 20 years of comms experience was going to hurt me. I spit out a full 36 hours of masters work and will have completed my MSCS in September along with my MBA. Certified last month with Sec+, taking the CySA and CFR at the end of this month will attempt to be ready and complete the CISSP before the October deadline for packet submission.

We'll see where it goes this year, but I don't think I have it in me after all that to wait another 12 months for another chance at a commission.
 

Navynewbie81

DCO_IDC_Candidate
#64
@bubblehead Thanks, I spoke to my recruiter today and added intel as a secondary. Several officers I interviewed with last year told my lack of a stem degree even with 20 years of comms experience was going to hurt me. I spit out a full 36 hours of masters work and will have completed my MSCS in September along with my MBA. Certified last month with Sec+, taking the CySA and CFR at the end of this month will attempt to be ready and complete the CISSP before the October deadline for packet submission.

We'll see where it goes this year, but I don't think I have it in me after all that to wait another 12 months for another chance at a commission.
If you're willing to do a career in the reserves you have it in you. This will be my third go at it this year. If I don't get picked up, I'll get more creds and experience. Heck, for those of us on our third and forth attempt, can you honestly say trying to get selected did not make you a better person both professionally and personaally? Stay the course as I am your competition and based on what you shared I need to step my game up, so thanks for that motivation. Stay the course.
 

bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
#65
@bubblehead Thanks, I spoke to my recruiter today and added intel as a secondary. Several officers I interviewed with last year told my lack of a stem degree even with 20 years of comms experience was going to hurt me. I spit out a full 36 hours of masters work and will have completed my MSCS in September along with my MBA. Certified last month with Sec+, taking the CySA and CFR at the end of this month will attempt to be ready and complete the CISSP before the October deadline for packet submission.

We'll see where it goes this year, but I don't think I have it in me after all that to wait another 12 months for another chance at a commission.
The only reason they list a STEM degree as a "pre-requisite" for IP and for INTEL is so they can make the programs appear more "competitive" and thus have their "pick of the litter" so they can then say "X% of our application/commissioning pool has XYX degrees and speaks XYZ languages." A STEM degree will make you no more successful as an IP or INTEL in the Reserve than one with a business degree. It's utter and complete b.s.

It's a marketing ploy.
 

Hair Warrior

New Member
Contributor
#66
Strictly speaking for 183X, there is a certain tiny slice of intelligence work that requires pretty rigorous science and math. It cannot and should not be 100% contracted out. Personnel can gain the required scientific expertise without a STEM degree, sure, but their success is less probable and/or may take longer and cost more.
 

bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
#67
Strictly speaking for 183X, there is a certain tiny slice of intelligence work that requires pretty rigorous science and math. It cannot and should not be 100% contracted out. Personnel can gain the required scientific expertise without a STEM degree, sure, but their success is less probable and/or may take longer and cost more.
I started as an 183X in 2009... And, no, there are not "tiny slices of intelligence work" that require anything special from a Reserve perspective. I've seen people come to the 183X community from all over the place (Seabee, Teacher, Lawyer, Salesperson), all of whom are "succeeding."