free time in a-pool

Discussion in 'Aviation Preflight Indoctrination (API)' started by tk628, Jan 22, 2007.

  1. tk628 Underemployed

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    Soooo.. how much free time do you have in the a-pool? Second job?!
  2. squorch2 he will die without safety brief

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    Is this a question? If you're considering moonlighting, make sure you route an appropriate chit to do it, lest bad things occur to you when your instructor runs into you working at Chotchke's or Shenanigan's or wherever.
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    insanebikerboy Internet killed the television star

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    Well, the request chits are always a good thing, but if he has enough flair I think they might let it slide. :icon_tong
  3. tk628 Underemployed

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    i was going to be doing a flying gig
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    regardless of the job, route a chit.
  5. tk628 Underemployed

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    ok.. well that'll happen when I get there.. shouldnt be a big deal if im just pooling right?... how do they stop you from having your own business on the side?
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    Brett327 Magnum!

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    It's not about "them" stopping you from doing anything. It's about you being responsible and having the professionalism and courtesy to keep your chain of command informed of things which could have an impact on the outcome of your training.

    Brett
  6. tk628 Underemployed

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    Thats a better way of putting it I guess. I just figured if the choice was to fly som GA stuff for a month or two and pay off my car, or drink beer all day, I would prefer the first as long as I'm not rattling too many cages. Keeping people informed is no biggie as long as I know its even possible.
  7. tk628 Underemployed

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    I'm not really a big beer drinker...I know I know.. wrong profession right?
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    Herc_Dude I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein

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    Give it time... you'll come around.
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    raptor10 Philosoraptor

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    Thats one advantage NROTC has over BDCP, it helps you build up your tolerance... not that I would know:icon_zbee
  8. Pags Boat Donkey

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    what?
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    RHPF KSNA 059/2048

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    Yeaaa.... I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one.
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    raptor10 Philosoraptor

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    Our unit has a lot of Brett-type STA-21 guys whose "expertise" you miss out on when going BDCP. Invite an OC over to a college party, and hilarity will ensue...
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    Brett327 Magnum!

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    You want hilarity? Invite a 36 year old LT to your party. :D

    Brett
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    WBGTSNA NPQ from SNA

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    You would not only have to route a chit for the job but also another ORM chit for doing a job that could potentially kill you. And you should catch the Flight Mgt people at a good time because, if I were a betting man (which I can be from time to time), I would guess that it will get shot down....
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    I seriously doubt they are going to let you take a flying job especially if it is involves overnights or flying during normal working hours. It's not about if you're working or not, it's about you being available if they decide they want you to work.

    If you're talking about part time CFIing where you can come and go as you please, that is a whole different thing.
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    Herc_Dude I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein

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    The web of admin BS would be enough for me to say F$%& it ... then again, I wasn't really looking to fill my paid vacation with ... work!?!?! :eek: Read up on some of the pubs, get as far ahead as you can if you really want to push yourself. You will be busy enough soon enough.
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    I seem to remember, from my check in to the A-pool (back in September), that if you will be flying for any reason other than Navy training, then you will be on leave. This included both GA as well as comair flying.

    Maybe the rules changed since then, but I doubt it.
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    efilemyr SNA

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    They will not approve chits for working during business hours (weekdays 0730-1600). They want you able to come in if they need you.

    If they find out that you are working during business hours, you will end up with a stash job that keeps you there all day.

    When we checked in, the flight management Ensigns told us that the only possible exemption to this was to substitute teach at one of the local school, but I have heard some rumors that they are not allowing that anymore.
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    What about the flying thing with GA while not on leave? I am an active member with the Civil Air Patrol and do intend to be active while in Pensacola. Also, pilots need to stay current to be safe.
  12. Flyboylance Back at the RAG again

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    I will also have to agree with this comment. Being an OC myself, I enjoy a good college party, it's funny to watch the young ones run around when all you gotta do is sit back, relax and enjoy the view.:icon_smil
  13. illinijoe05 Nachos

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    News Flash, your job isnt to be in the civil air patrol, its to be a naval officer. Stucon could give 2 sh!ts about weather or not you are staying current with your GA flying, you know why? Because they arent going to let you do it anyways, and as far as they are concerned whats safer, you doing general aviaiton enough to keep current or you not flying GA at all? Not flying at all. You crazy kids enjoy your paid vacation because the second you class up your going to wish you were back in the a pool, and that is the truth. And by the way if you need a job, become a counselor to young women (18-22) of questionable morals like every other a pool ensign.
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    NozeMan Are you threatening me?

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    Haha, no more Cessna flying for you...EVER. No one in A-Pool is allowed to do any flying of their own....that goes for the entire training pipeline as well. Looks like your CAP career is going to be on hold for a few years, sorry.
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    I have no doubt it will be a redass to try what was being asked while in the pool, but I haven't heard about "no flying" at all during flight school. A standing ORM sheet will be required (just like boating), but I haven't heard it being completely off limits.

    As for in the pool, what others have said. Your job is to muster, do a stash job, and/or be available if they need you.

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