Flying for Navy, Marines or Air Force?

Discussion in 'Questions about becoming a Navy Officer' started by gringo, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. gringo Registered User

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    hey im debating which service to join upon graduation, personally i like the navy better. but i have been reading a lot of these post here and i realize most people here are navy, but what is so bad about the airforce way vs the navy? i was always told airforce was much easier. please help me out, thanks
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    airforce or navy way????

    hey im debating which service to join upon graduation, personally i like the navy better. but i have been reading a lot of these post here and i realize most people here are navy, but what is so bad about the airforce way vs the navy? i was always told airforce was much easier. please help me out, thanks

    sorry i posted this in the marine secrion earlier.
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    So you posted this in the Marine section...why?
  3. beau Registered User

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    It comes down to what YOU believe in most. What kind of sacrafices are you willing to make? What appeals to you about both services, what doesent appeal to you?

    I dont think any service is "easy"! Its a matter of personal Output and attitude.
  4. bch Helo Bubba

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    you want to live near water (for the most part) or live BUM(*&^ middle of no where kansas?

    LOL
    honestly, they both do important missions.
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    i understand they each do important missions, but what is the difference in the initial training? i just see a few complaints of the airforce way vs the navy way. how are they so different?
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    You should probably be even more specific in your questions as they are kinda broad.
  7. gringo Registered User

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    ok well they say the airforce has a 12 hr day in flight school, what is the difference in the typical day of flight training between the 2?
  8. cjohnson1 Registered User

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    Dude, you really shouldn't make a decision based on which service you think is easier. Am I right?
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  9. petescheu Registered User

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    gringo-
    As with all of the questions about A/F training so far, go ahead and check out "Anybody been to Vance or Moody lately" which was active a few weeks ago or so. Should shed a lot of light on your questions about what it's like to train with the A/F. Navy bases are all in great places, not all of A/F are. A/F has tons of money, their facilities and aircraft are mostly really nice (unless you get some old dinosaur); Navy seems to be unless it's brand new, it's not so nice. A/F doesn't do the deployments the Navy does, but they also don't get to go on all the port stops like we do. They fly to their forward base and then fly back. Some A/F planes do stop in a lot of neat places though, particularly KC-10s. Air force helo missions are almost all combat SAR. Navy helo community is very different from that. Big planes in the Air Force (135s, 10s, 5s, 17s, 1s, 52s, 2s, etc) not really big planes in the Navy. All depends on what you want.
  10. Thisguy Pain-in-the-dick

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    Gringo,

    Let's put it this way. In the Navy, most of the aviators launch and recover on a carrier about the size of 3 football fields that can pitch like crazy and is tough to see at night. In the Air Force, you've got nice airfields to land on.
  11. av8tor Registered User

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    Air Force training tends to be more structured, I don't know that I'd agree it's easier. The Air Force may be more anal than the Navy in training, but the there are no hindden card tricks to keep you in the dark. Which is better, who knows, decide where do you want to live and then apply for both and accept which ever one offers you the job.
  12. vinny Registered User

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    when a girl asks you what you do...would you rather answer with "I'm a pilot" or "I'm an aviator". the choice is simple for me.
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    I always answer with "I'm a naval officer." If I say I'm a SWO, I get the deer in the headlights stare followed by "what the hell is that?"....and that's coming from the aviators!
  13. TurnandBurn55 Drinking, flying, or looking busy!!

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    Even if you're in the AF, you can still get sent to Pensacola for flight training with the Navy, there's quite a few of those guys here.

    Even if you're in the Navy, you can still get sent to Vance or Moody for primary. I know as an SNFO, you can get sent to Randolph for advanced.

    Point being there's so much joint training going on now-- and it's going to become even more joint as times go on, that choosing a service based on their training pipeline can bite you in the a$$.

    I'll echo the sentimonies of the other folks here-- choose the service you think you'd feel best with when you're actually out there and operational...

    Good luck!
  14. NeoCortex Castle Law for all States!!!

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    This is from a friend of mine that was an AF pilot. "The Air Force teaches you what you can do. The Navy teaches you what you can't."
  15. Demento Old Salt

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    A perspective on Navy versus Air Force

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    loadtoad Active Member

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    Its not if "I am a pilot" or I am a "Naval Aviator" its "I'm a FIGHTER PILOT" or "I'm a pilot"
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    No, they had it right the first time. It's "I'm a naval aviator." Saying "I'm a fighter pilot" is like twirling a BMW keyring in the bar. No one who actually has a BMW has a the silly little keyring with the checker logo on it. No actual fighter pilot says (imagine nerd voice here), "I'm a fighter pilot." Most of those people are poseurs, the rest are dorks. Besides, real men drive American cars, much like real men fly 200' and below. Anyway, most pilots will say what they fly, as in, "I'm a (insert a/c here) pilot." By this I mean by model, like F-18s, F-14s, or, if they truly have balls of steel, CH-46Es.
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    amen brother
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    Air Force flying versus Navy flying...

    I was just curious... why is Navy flying so much more sought-after and competitive to be accepted into versus Air Force flying.

    Is it the whole taking off and landing from a carrier, or maybe the fact that the Navy it usually the first to be active in a real conflict...?

    I was reading something that said the Air Force still has a pilot shortage and will continue to because of the solution they used to reduce the amount of pilots in the Air Force in the 90's... which was to reduce the number of new pilots coming in through UPT, which explains the present and future shortages.

    Does the Navy not have this going on? Does anyone know if the Navy talks of needing pilots or having too many, or what the current situation is?

    I'm a computer engineer with an interest in flight (currently close to completing my private certificate) and I would probably fare better trying to fly in the Air Force (because of my family and experience... LORs, internships) but flying in the Navy seems just a little more interesting.

    I just wanted to throw this out to see if anyone had any thoughts about the reasons why Navy flying seems to be much harder to get into (from a civilian application point of view).
  18. virtu050 P-3 Bubba

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    i'm not sure if it's harder to get into.. it's just different. air force pilots are just that.. pilots. they don't have collateral duties and the opportunity to lead like the navy does. their deployments are shorter and their bases are in the middle of nowhere, though air force bases are generally nicer. training is different too.. the navy trusts that as an officer you have the time management skills to study on your own, whereas the airforce will keep you on base all day whether you're flying or not. the air force seems to be more into memorizing math formulas and precise flight planning where the navy is more concerned in your ability to perform under pressure and being flexible. Navy is unique in that we land on ships... though not all navy pilots land on ships. Air force does have some cool planes though... B2, F117, F22.. etc.. navy wings are gold. air force wings are silver.. and they wear those gay scarves too.
    if you want jets it's totally dependent on the needs of the navy.. they may not have any jets when you select after primary training... not sure about the air force..
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  19. Pags Boat Donkey

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    It's also kinda cool to be in a service that has 200yrs + of traditions. Nothing like speaking whole sentences, that while technically english, can hardly be understood by a lubber.

    "Where's the head?"
    "go down the pway and up the ladder. it's on the next deck up, port side."
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    Something else I remembered... I was talking to an F/A-18 Hornet pilot at a recent Air Show (Dayton, OH) and he said something like....

    "The Air Force tells you what you can do in your airplane. The Navy tells you what you can't do, everything else is fair game."
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