Discussion in 'Aviation and Military Humor' started by zab1001, Jan 6, 2005.
That is my actual COC FITREP by the way.
Get the hell out...
And to think, I was going to ask you if you did that by memory, or with some help from CTRL-C.
It's made it past the DH level as it stands.
Dude, there is no way. That's some kind of joke, right? Perhaps you could go back to the post and clarify the actual FITREP comments from your personal commentary?
That is the FITREP which was submitted. Verbatim. I'm sure the "MP for his troubles" comment will probably be chopped by the XO.
Way to go out Viking funeral style, MB.
I think it's fair to say that you've made the leap from active duty mindset to reserve mindset nicely...
Damn, I thought you were just screwing with us based on the thread category.
We'll see how far it gets. I had the MO rolling on the floor laughing. And then I told him I was serious. Which added MOAR LAUGHTER!
"Why not? It don't matter anymore for you" was the response I got.
MB - I did a little research for you.
You do realize that he already has a CDL and has worked as a truck driver before, right?
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He is MasterBates,"the most interesting aviator in the world," after all.
You said you showed this to the MO? Isn't he your RS? Or does the CO write on everyone in his squadron in the Navy?
Your CO is not going to sign something like that, and if your DH has half a brain, they won't forward this as is. I know you're not a professional (as if we needed another reminder), but I suspect that your Skipper is. Please post a scanned (PII redacted) copy when this gets sent to BUPERS.
What is the problem with writing an accurate, if humorous FITREP? Does it not fit in with you paradigm where every officer shits rainbows and saves the Navy form the unruly unwashed hordes of hippies every FITREP cycle? The MO knew it was coming. This FITREP does not matter. If I FOS, it could have been just a continuity purpose/CO Average management FITREP. If I screen, per community STAN I'm going to get the #2 Select behind our WTI.
I get my job done. I do it right, on time, and sometimes even honestly meet impossible deadlines. As much as it would shock you, I am competent, safe in the aircraft, and get the bastard aboard when others can't with a damn good for a Hummer Guy GPA. While I am not the stick figure marathon runner the USN seems to want, I meet standards for BF, and score Excellent-High on my PRTs.
I just choose to use my final FITREP to poke fun at what I believe to be a broken system.
Don't lecture me about professionalism.
If we all were half as good as our FITREPs claim, we would have colonized Mars and have Space Aircraft Carriers by now.
Yeah, and he was a commercial chopper pilot before joining Big Navy. How did that work out for him?
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I love it when it is Fitrep time. I do a lot of behind the scenes wordsmithing on all the ones that come across TrophyHinge's desk and I get tremendous satisfaction in finding and suggesting to him new ways to say, "meh, 's'alright" in vague, wordy ways. The good ones are no fun at all to help with.
I think this about sums up my position. I'm willing to bet that your CO doesn't agree with this concept, nor is he willing to broadcast that kind of sentiment to the community at large. If I got something like that as a FITREP input from anyone, I'd tear it up and invite that person to start over.
As for the rest, you don't have to plead with me regarding your reputation. You've spent a lot of time and effort during your short career to make your reputation into what it is today and you're simply reaping what you've sown over the years. Big Navy is just acting accordingly.
Just the reporting senior (normally the CO for E-7 and up) rates and signs Navy fitreps and evals. Others in the chain of command provide their inputs, but unlike the Marines and Army systems there is no such thing as intermediate raters or senior raters... well, not exactly, but not on the form anyway.
So out of curiosity Brett, if my reputation is so bad, why did I have two Captains and a Two Star go to bat for me?
What have you done to help unfuck the dicked up culture of the Navy? I've stuck my neck out and thrown down to try to save some of our history. I call things like I see them, and I don't just do what is best for me.
But I'm the pinnacle of being an unprofessional doucher. So be it.
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Just like I'm more willing to bet that most fleet skippers are kool-aid addicts and most of the actual leaders out there only have a chance as weapons school skippers. A certain kind of man is attracted to operational command these days, and he's not the kind of man he once was. "Professional" is not a word to describe a CO with the automatic implication that a subordinate officer is unprofessional.
It is what it is. I'm not implying that everyone who's subordinate to a CO is unprofessional, just MB in this case.
@ MB: The difference between you and I, Casey, is that I understand concepts like tact, office politics and the ability to discern which battles are worth fighting for and which will just get you shit-canned and swept into the dustbin of irrelevance. You're a fool if you think any of your "I'm gonna change the Navy" antics have amounted to anything other than destroy any of the positive things which you may have done in your career. This organization has far too much institutional inertia for such things and to think otherwise shows below average judgment. I don't know you personally, but I know people on this site and in the fleet who do. Ultimately, it is my opinion that your "I'm gonna change the Navy" theme is just a cover for the general buffoonery which seems to accompany you wherever you go, and your inability to keep your personal life from interfering with your professional life. That is the reality that has been played out again and again on this forum over the years in excrutiating detail for all to see. There's a reason you are in the predicament you currently find yourself in. It's not the Navy or the FITREP system, or bad timing. It's not the COs or the DHs you've worked for over the years. It's not because the culture in Naval Aviation has changed.
It's just you.
and with that - I think we need to all take a deep breath and move on
There are some great take aways from this thread. I'm glad there has been honest dialogue. Sound personal integrity is something that can never be taken from each of us.
A couple of lesson's for our prospective officers observing the thread:
1. Brett is true to his goals and lives them each day. IF your goal is to be a career officer, you do have to micromanage as many aspects as possible of your personal and professional life. From the gals that you date to your language in the office. Any behavior that can potentially derail Brett's end goal appears to be avoided effectively.
2. MB is equally honest with his personal integrity. He may have not been careful enough dating his ex but in all fairness that was a bit hard to predict. MB appears to be well liked and accomplishes challenging tasks well. He is his own man and doesn't apologize for it.
In summary- If you desire to have a career as an officer in the Navy for 20 plus years. The Brett327 mindset works in most cases if you can stay focussed 99.9% of the time. If you are an entrepreneur at heart, the MB style might be just as effective but probably won't allow you to rise to Flag rank as the Navy's "institutional inertia" truly won't allow for it in many cases.
So what am I saying? I'll go out on a limb and say that BOTH are probably outstanding officers and leaders in their own ways. From my Navy experience -history showed me that our "by the book" type officers are indeed statistically more likely to have long careers in the Navy. The MB types typically do leave the Navy at some point and direct their energy towards entrepreneurial endeavors and continue being successful on their own terms.
These last few posts sound like they came from the Land of SWO, (shudder).
Anyway- I'm damn glad to share the AW bandwidth with both of them. Now what new fitrep code words exactly are there?
"Greg, what is the worst fraternity on this campus?"
"Well that would be hard to say, sir. They're each outstanding in their own way."
All of us are equally worthless, in our own special way.
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