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F-35B/C Lightning II (Joint Strike Fighter)
- Thread starter jai5w4
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I’m calling it a cover up! What is the Navy really hiding. I demand a full, three day long, NCIS investigation.
Looks like our allies are out innovating us on F-35 ops at sea!
I’ll have you know, we had a harrier perform a rolling vertical landing on an LHD years ago.
It resulted in a class A mishap, but the innovation was there.
Sorry I was being tongue in cheek but the Brits have this in every social media platform and Aviation Week and every other defense news publication is highlighting this as a accomplishment...
My understanding is it was an engine malfunction/partial rollback. They decided to try an RVL even though that’s not exactly a NATOPS procedure. It clipped the back of the deck and ripped the gear off, some people were fired. Someone with a WESS account can look it up and correct me where I’m wrong.
I have no doubt it’s possible, and it would be great for increased bring back/fuel cushion. But that’s a very narrow deck. Plus it’s hard enough to get a clear deck for 5 minutes just to launch.
It wouldn’t take longer, I just mean that they wouldn’t be able to have helos spotted. Often we’d be limited just to spot 9 because of a helo on whatever the spot in front of spot 7 is.
The real problem would be the danger on roll out since the brakes suck and it’s very narrow. But getting helos off the tramline just to launch was a huge hassle. Needing it for landing too would be a dicey proposition.
Edit: actually now that I think about it, it would also take a little longer based on where they park harriers/f-35’s on LHD’s. The first would have to RVL, roll out, then turn around and taxi back to park before the second could land. It’s not a meaningful amount of time but it’s more than just landing both on spots 7 & 9 30 seconds apart
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I was in a Reserve TACRON. Never had to deploy but did the training and exercised a bit. I recall getting Harriers on and off was a hassle because of helo ops and spot issues. Just don't remember all the details. The active guys and our guys that were recalled for Desert Storm joked that the first thing you wanted to do was launch all the Harriers and find a place to stash them for the day.
Typically they’d do the helo’s first because they took forever to spot and unfold. They could do that prior to actual beginning of flight ops, or the night before. The harriers can start and do preflight checks in their parking spot while still tied down. Then after they all launch, they can get a harrier section out in about 2 minutes. Then they’d have a couple helos spotted forward when that section recovered. The harriers are always on time because as soon as they launch it’s a mathematical certainty as to when they need to land. The usual problem is when one of the first helos breaks on a spot. Then shutting it down, folding it, and stuffing it means the harriers are cancelled.
BOOM - here comes the F-35 train. Aweigh the military industrial spending boom... @Python1287 won't be out of work anytime soon!
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/11/19/lockheed-martin-lands-255-jet-fighter-order-worth.aspx
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/11/19/lockheed-martin-lands-255-jet-fighter-order-worth.aspx
$81.6 million each? Probably no CD player in the cockpit, or spinning rims.
