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DCS Legacy Hornet sim....

ChuckMK23

Former H-46 Driver
pilot
#46
If anyone cares, ThrustMaster just released a spot on replica Hornet stick control to go with the sim software (Hornet guys, please comment as to accuracy). Attaches to the existing Thristmaster Hotas A-10C stick... pretty cool.

 

Pags

Well-Known Member
pilot
#52
I don’t get this reference.
It's a dig at the large briefs/debrief that comes with a tactical syllabus flight or at least did. Color me surprised if a tactical syllabus flight no longer has the level of pain that comes with generating a large brief and smart card package, an at least 1hr brief with visuals provided by said giant PPT, a 2hr flight, and a debrief consisting of a guy with a patch pointing out your typos at 0300.
 
#53
It's a dig at the large briefs/debrief that comes with a tactical syllabus flight or at least did. Color me surprised if a tactical syllabus flight no longer has the level of pain that comes with generating a large brief and smart card package, an at least 1hr brief with visuals provided by said giant PPT, a 2hr flight, and a debrief consisting of a guy with a patch pointing out your typos at 0300.
Ironically much of the AF weapons school is pushing the ability to spontaneously instruct/brief off a white board or a one slide tactical chart projected on screen, since many people just use the PPT as a crutch (modifying someone else's slide deck without understanding).
 

armada1651

Hey intern, get me a Campari!
pilot
#54
I haven't seen many tactical briefs done with Powerpoint, with the exception of the mass briefs for larger events. But that's certainly not an 80 slide situation. And I'm not much of a Kool-Aid drinker, but it's just not possible to adequately brief our more complex flights in much less than an hour. As for the debrief, can they go very long? Yes. Do some instructors get hung up on insignificant bullshit and seem to just like the sound of their voice? Yes. But still, the debrief is where learning happens, and if you're using a colossal amount of resources for training, it's just unprofessional to leave that training on the table by not debriefing it thoroughly.

We do some stupid stuff in the fighter world, but I don't buy that fully dissecting a training event so that training actually occurs is one of them. In the Navy, neither is elbow-pointing.
 

Pags

Well-Known Member
pilot
#55
I haven't seen many tactical briefs done with Powerpoint, with the exception of the mass briefs for larger events. But that's certainly not an 80 slide situation. And I'm not much of a Kool-Aid drinker, but it's just not possible to adequately brief our more complex flights in much less than an hour. As for the debrief, can they go very long? Yes. Do some instructors get hung up on insignificant bullshit and seem to just like the sound of their voice? Yes. But still, the debrief is where learning happens, and if you're using a colossal amount of resources for training, it's just unprofessional to leave that training on the table by not debriefing it thoroughly.

We do some stupid stuff in the fighter world, but I don't buy that fully dissecting a training event so that training actually occurs is one of them. In the Navy, neither is elbow-pointing.
Dudes, it was a JOKE. Meant to poke fun at the simulator crowd who thinks they're the real deal. I thought we could all share a laugh that if they aren't doing all the requisite pain associated with the real deal thenn they're even further from the real deal than they think. Have a giggle and move on unless the NAWDC standard prohibits mirth.
 

Python1287

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
#56
@Pags sorry. I intended my point to be a bit tongue in cheek. I thought you were making a dig at tacair. I was being sarcastic in my reply and trying to make a point that most of our debriefs are not long (as is stereotyped).
Agree that the FS nerds go too far (and are woefully inaccurate), especially when they take on the identity of my former squadron.
@armada1651 agree that debriefs are important for lessons learned. However I definitely think the stupidity could and should go away regardless.
 

Pags

Well-Known Member
pilot
#57
@Pags sorry. I intended my point to be a bit tongue in cheek. I thought you were making a dig at tacair. I was being sarcastic in my reply and trying to make a point that most of our debriefs are not long (as is stereotyped).
Agree that the FS nerds go too far (and are woefully inaccurate), especially when they take on the identity of my former squadron.
@armada1651 agree that debriefs are important for lessons learned. However I definitely think the stupidity could and should go away regardless.
Peace.
 

armada1651

Hey intern, get me a Campari!
pilot
#58
Dudes, it was a JOKE. Meant to poke fun at the simulator crowd who thinks they're the real deal. I thought we could all share a laugh that if they aren't doing all the requisite pain associated with the real deal thenn they're even further from the real deal than they think. Have a giggle and move on unless the NAWDC standard prohibits mirth.
Fair enough. I checked the flight schedule and the skipper has authorized mirth.