Current NFO surplus...

Yeah, I'm fairly new to the site, and I now understand that the nature of my post is a little too much to handle for most of the folks here. Looks like I'm switching to lurker mode. Lesson learned. :icon_tong

If for no other reason than to be a peacemaker here...

I understand where you are coming from. It can seem like some people here (myself included) can tend to jump all over someone for something trivial. Like anything however, this requires a little bit of thought on your part. Consider for a second, that unlike one of your buddies apartments, this is not a place that just A-Poolers frequent...and while your thread may have been directed at them...it was received by one of the closest things to a public wardroom that there is.

What does that mean? It means that there are CO's..hinges...mids...JO's...here. It is slice of military aviation...and a slice of life. You seem like you have a good attitude and some sense...so try to understand that there are always going to be differences of opinion and disagreements...and that in your future career as a human...you will have to find a way to deal with all of those people. Act honorably, treat others well and think before you speak and in the end, disagreements or not, you will earn respect.

Didn't mean to sound like your Dad there...but there are some here who don't get it...and I would hate to see anyone else go that way. Be safe, I hope your question was answered and good luck.


And one more time...that is a hillarious pic....I can't stop looking at it...

I'll get right on that.......:icon_roll

So, in an attempt to turn this thread away from the chest-beating alpha-male contest this has become...


I'd like to address the following post:

First of all, I got selected for an NFO during a period of time when there was a major need for aviators, both pilots and NFO's. The needs of the Navy are ever-changing (apparently).

You never know (no guarantees), but by the time you get commissioned, the needs of the Navy can have (and probably will have) changed.

Bottom line: don't sweat it. How are you going to commission? Just curious.

Gator, I appreciate the advice, really I do, but whatever 'sarcastic' comments I make are only made in a satirical fashion of the 'lion's den' attitude that's held by so many around here. This is an internet forum, where I hope I can come, turn it off, and engage in some lively, informative & light-hearted conversation.

If that's not your style, great, but know that I don't take seriously the whole puffed out chest, "Now listen here, son"-attitude floating around here. Do I plan on going around and acting like a jackass in the ward-room and ready room? C'mon now. Like I said, it's a matter of turning it off and toning it down a notch. If I've learned anything from my current short-run in the Navy via my commission @ OCS and my short visit in A-pool thusfar, it's that meaningful relationships count the most. Making those relationships doesn't usually come with doling stern talking-to's and bossing people around on an online forum. JJDIDTIEBUCKLE for my fellow OCS'ers. :icon_wink

If I have come under and direct violation of rules of the forum, I'll take my licks like a man. Otherwise, I'm here to engage in meaningful discussion over all aspects of training, current and future. I respect all individuals here on the site who have something meaningful to share, and I recognize the fact that there are plenty of guys a lot older, more experienced and seasoned who I could learn a lot from, and I look forward to doing so.

So, now that that's out of the way, anyone planning on going to "Teens n' Marines" tonite @ Seville? I keed, I keed.

Yes, you buying?

And if you pick up P-3s, youll earned the goldenboy title of "UMFO." Yes...life is gooooooooooooood when you Wing after 6 wks of crash course P-3. Although I feel its unfair to our Randolph contemporaries, I just do what I'm told Anyhoo, our class of UMFOs (5th edition) Wings april 30th. Wish us luck!

I've heard the P-3 guys get winged real quick-like. Good luck!

Your loss.......

Just a slight correction, but I was told at my Day 0 three weeks ago that a SNFO in the top 10% would be able to submit a package. It is not a guarantee.

Sorry I haven't been on in a while, maybe I could have saved you a lot of grief.... Coming from a fellow A-pooler, I can I say I've heard this as well, back the first week of March, and I believe it's true. The DH over at my stash job is also an API instructor, he informed all of the stashes (though it doesn't really pertain to me) that sometime in the near future (he didn't know when but suspected 2 months max) that the min passing grade for SNFO's would be around 94%. Same deal as happened with the pilots a while back. The DH has been holding classes with the stashes gouging us up on the testable stuff. Sooo, take that for what it's worth...
Good Luck.

That really blows to hear the passing % going up for the SNFOs. Had that been in effect when I went through API last May, many of my NFO friends would not have Wings right now.

Its funny bc even here in the RAG we still reminisce of how sh!tty the API exams were compared to the exams we take now. I can be honest and say I hated the API exams. Well....except for NAV. Probably my most favorite subject. Drawing lines are fun. Especially when you hear "Ok folks, you have 10 mins left." The panic sets in when you still have 10 questions left and its the Nav log (happened to a friend of mine who attrited).

Big Navy is sending randomly selected SNFOs from the INAV syllabus of Intermediate (Pcola) straight to the RAG (VP-30 in Jax). Since Randolph is on the chopping block, its to ease the transition from TX to Jax. We do have Winged Randolph folks that attend our course and critic it (observers).

We are then dubbed "UMFOs", go through 6 wks of crash course P-3 stuff (3 exams, 3 sims, no flights), Wing, then immediately start the CAT I NFO syallbus.

Just hoping this supposed surplus doesn't affect those of us commission in 08 who want NFO...

Who would this increase in minimum scores pertain to? Would it be those already in Pensacola waiting to class up or those set to arrive this summer? I must admit this seems a bit strange to me given the fact that since service selections came out for my unit in January, they've offered aviation to three people who wanted SWO.

Though just idle gossip, one of the instructors said that sometime the Navy will just purge the lowest x% of pilots or nfos in flight school, regardless of what stage they're in (pre-winging). He said it's happened before with pilots and now might be the time for FOs... though, I heard that the passing score would only be bumped up to 90%. And then there's the other side, where the director of API told one of the students not to worry about only getting in the mid-80s for his exams because some of the most successful people don't do well on API exams.

Overall, I think it's stupid to worry about this. It hasn't come down that they're officially changing anything; if you do well, you don't have to worry; and if they would drop you, well, it wouldn't be the first time the Navy screws someone career-wise.

That is the most intelligent thing said so far in this thread.

haha, a few months ago, our MOI (the acting XO at the time because our XO was in afghanistan), a marine aviator, was supposed to ask all the guys who were selected SNA if they were sure we wanted to be an aviator and if we wanted to switch to SNFO

Well word is now that they have had an intel guy come down to try to convert some of the NFO's "if there having second doubts... (while being in APOOL?)..) and also through the vine is that they want to send some to SERE, but supposedly that is backed up as well. They just don't know what to do with the ones waiting... they are now taking groups of 50 to the museum on tours.

Careful what you listen to. The 'intel guy' (Intel Placement/Accessions Officer) that was here the other day was in town for an NROTC board at NETC. He came by NASC at the request of the NASC Redes/Transitions O to speak to all of us here at NASC already slated for redes for our various reasons. A couple of TW5 and TW6 folks attended his little brief (presumably attrites as well). There was also at least one a-pooler, so there could have been more, but the 'intel guy' was not here to recruit excess SNFO's.