Discussion in 'War Zone' started by Slammer2, Nov 4, 2008.
Where do all these people think the money is going to come from for the phantom payments of mortgages and gas? The easter bunny?
I honestly don't think either party in this election had the vitriol that Dem's have been leveling at President Bush for the last 8 years.
San Fran's got a plan for the President Bush Memorial Sewage Plant
You my friend, obvously haven't gotten out of your secure compound to get a first hand look at who we're fighting in southern Afghanistan. Let me guess, if we promulgate open dialogue and remove sanctions, they'll graciously stop flooding the foreign borders with weapons, personnel and trainers? This has nothing to do with Republican, or Democrat. It has everything to do with those of us who must actually fight outside the wire to feel confident that our Commander has a realistic perspective of who we are fighting against and to what extent.
Seriously, if you think the Republicans are cleaner than the Democrats, or vice versa, then you are sorely mistaken.
Both parties have their nutjobs, and they produce plenty of hate and discontent to keep everyone pissed off.
This may well be but it's REALLY a stretch to match Pelosi, Murtha and Reid. Come on Flash, at least a little reality and no, you cannot go back to 1954.
No it is not a stretch, things just look that way from you side of the aisle. 1954?
Just which party could have a convicted felon serving in the Senate? Remember, convicted.
You mean Stevens I assume, OK convicted and not just "caught". Clinton and Obama both come to mind but even at that, you still didn't mention any CURRENT rabid RWers.
Shit, I could have mentioned KKK Byrd but forgot.
Okay, keep telling yourself that.......:icon_roll
Yes, we are not holding hands with Iran but if we need to bribe them to take their hoodlums out of Iraq and Afghanistan then we should do that. And if they are soo much a threat we need to remove them from the surface of the earth. Security in that area is critical and very important.
Even though the era of hardliners in Iran is gradually erroding, how long do we want to wait for that.
Like Fester mentioned, I do not see any drastic policy change cocerning Iran in the new administration.
Weren't you just saying you hoped Pres. Obama would become an ally to Iran? I don't follow your logic, if there is any behind what you've posted today.
Sewage plant proposition didn't pass
Reading this thread just made my IQ drop 10 points.
I think both parties as a whole suck with a few gems scattered here and there.
I do not think Republicans or Democrats are dirtier or cleaner than the other, but I think the public hate that spewed from the Democrats about Bush has been leaps and bounds above anything I have ever seen.
I've never seen a Muck FcCain bumper sticker or anything similar, the Buck Fush is pretty common where I am though.
Edit: Thanks for update on sewage plant bill not passing, I didn't realize that had already been voted on.
Two replies no names, weak even by your standards. :sleep_125
Here is the inherent logic:
We have lost the leverage hence we need to decide what our COA is with them. We can blow them out of existence and they cease to be an issue, leave the issue the way it is(which is nothing positive) or we can go about an alternative solution. Well since we cannot blow them up I guess we will leave the situation the way it is or make peace!! Maybe not make peace with them but make effort to establish diplomatic relation. Get the two sides talking again.
It is not that Iran is bad but we are still bitter about the embassy hostage situation and they are still angry about the airliner incident along with a host of other issues. Afterall, the Majlis are they ones that are insisting on the hardline policies not the people. The people are about ready for change. Just from a little research, I did not realize Iranian publicly mourned after 9/11. For a country that hates us.........
Ahmadinejad knows we are spread thin and we could not possibly launch a surgical atin Iran. For a country about twice the size of Iraq, good luck!
Yup, that pretty much sums it up. I was looking for the Bubba Clinton Herpes Clinic name change on my ballot but since I'm in a cobalt blue state it was neglected. Hell, we even elected Babs Mikulski 500 times but we DID deport Pelosi.
An interesting read on the topic, for those that are interested, is The Devil We Know. As for Iran being an ally, seriously? Lots of really bad things happen at the behest of Tehran, and Quds Force has their fingers in quite a few pies which result in the deaths of Americans and are geared towards preventing stability in Iraq...sound like a potential ally? Iran holds a great deal of sway in the Middle East and controls a shit load of oil, for that reason I can foresee a need for diplomatic engagement of the variety which we conduct with other adversarial nations. Don't confuse diplomatic communications with alliance.
You really need to get out more, there have been a few caricatures of Senator Obama that have been pretty disgusting, as well as other Democratic figures. Just like there have been some of President Bush and other Republican figures. And a lot of the haters out there are just that, not particularly Democrats or Republicans. If you can't see that both sides are equally guilty of political invective, then you are letting your biases get in the way.
Unlike you, I still serve. I will hold my tongue for once, and abide by the rules.
Being elected as President 40 years removed from the civil rights movement is pretty damn positive. His ability to surround himself with intelligent and capable advisers will serve him very well.
I think Putin just did.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7710362.stm
...brinkmanship all over again.
Huh? His father was Kenyan, both of his Kenyan grandparents were from the same tribe. Not to quibble too much, but where did you get that?
And even then, we have rarely made a distinction in this country of how 'black' someone is when it comes to race, from our independence through Jim Crow and to today. In Africa and elsewhere they sometimes do, but here we have the legacy of 'one-drop rule' from earlier times.
Some articles with some explanation of the history of the 'one drop rule':
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