Discussion in 'War Zone' started by Slammer2, Nov 4, 2008.
I'm willing to wait, see and give a chance. Can you wait until he does ONE thing positive first..............anything?
Holy Batshit, can I change my vote" I WANT the free gas and mortgage.
Challenged us to go to the Moon
Demanded that DoD support unconventional warfare.
Jackie O wasn't half bad either
You are indeed an optimist.
Can I bronze this? It's not everyday one writes the Dumbass Of The Millennium Award.
I agree with many others on this thread that, as Benjamin Franklin quipped, "hope makes a good breakfast but a bad super" and now its time for definitive action.
That said--and I was actually at the Grant park rally--I was pretty moved by that speech. Especially when he implored Americans to find a spirit of service and sacrifice, and then lauded the career of his rival. I think that's a value the military community can find common ground in.
Offcourse you claim my opinions are retarded but we cannot prove that your opinions are not as retarded as mine either. So your point is?
If we know what works why don't we use it. Giving ultimatums is not exactly coercion. For the past 100years? By now we should have perfected the process don't you think?
If we have to eat with them at a table with one hand behind our back then let us do it. Whatever gets the job done. And if we feel that we need to blow the shit out of them then let us do it. I just think we have lost the leverage against Iran. Mutual Assured Distruction(MAD) is not in our game plan either.
Really? Have you been paying attention at all? Even on this board?
It is a pleasure. Any time!!
Where do I report for the Award?
Depends on the perspective you take.
Leverage? I've been to Iran...you better believe our sanctions and embargoes have deeply effected the populace. Sure they are making nukes...but the population is still getting around in this....
The people are suffering because of the actions of their government. They rely on the black market and you would still think it is 1965 when you go there. They know we have the means to send them back to the stone age. I believe that is all the leverage we need.
As per our Vice President-Elect, I would expect someone - China, NK, Iran - to try yanking our chain in the coming year, just to see what Obama does. Nothing too serious, or something that can't be cooled down, just a test-yank. China did that shit all the time during the Clinton administration, and would have done the same to Bush, except for 9/11.
I don't see Obama making any big course changes in foreign policy. He has lots of ideas and concepts now, but after a few months of rooms full of people explaning to him the consequences of action X or Y...?
Democrats can't afford to "look soft" on foreign issues. it's political suicide and just gives the GOP ammunition. It's why JFK and LBJ got us deep into Vietnam, why Carter wasn't reelected, and why Clinton sent us on so many foreign adventures.
But are we really going to send them back to the stone age?
Seriously, NO. Believe that.
Why? We are the US of A.
When I say leverage, I mean against the government. Offcourse the Majlis do not care about the populace. They are not driving around in junk.
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