Compare Navy OCS to USMC OCS

A guide and squad leaders will be appointed by your drill instructor. The term "class" is most often used, but you'll hear platoon too. There are battallions, not companies. Both battallions together make the regiment, which is a term you'll probably only hear when doing the graduation parade: "Regiment forward!" "Pass the regiment in review."

I've been looking for this as well, let me know if you find it.

I burned a copy from the EPSQ cd's That i got from my recruiter. I cant get it too save to my pc though. maybe a recruiter will burn you a copy

NAVSUP,

Can you burn me a copy? I will pay for postage and a CD. I asked my recruiter once, he told me he couldn't get it to work... didn't have a burner.

I also have the privilidge of Gunnery Sergeant Murphy as my drill instructor. Gunnery Sergeant Hanson and Gunnery Sergeant Watson are still on deck as well as Master Gunnery Sergeant Altman. I do believe however that Gunnery Sergeant Fowler is in the running for scariest DI now. And I have to agree... the academic portion does take alot of time out of the day that could be spent better either doing PT or drill.

what is an IP?

IP is short for irish pennant. It is any loose thread on your person on any article of clothing. It is a hit during any inspection.

Navy Vs. Marine OCS

This is probably a stupid question, but what are the most significant differences between the PT elements of Navy and Marine OCS? Is Navy OCS known for being easier physically than Marine OCS? How do they match up? I hear about guys going into Marine OCS already running 18 minute 3 miles and still getting F'd up at OCS. If it's the same for the Navy, I might be in for more than I thought.

Check out your average Sailor.
Check out your average Marine.

That is the difference between Navy PT and Marine PT.

As for OCS - I'll leave that to those more experienced

Two total different missions. Marine OCS is desinged to screen individuals to become provisional rifle platoon commanders (basic infantry). Navy OCS is desinged to screen for something a lot different.

Navy OCS is a joke. Pure and simple. I doubt they've made any improvements in the last several years... for crying out loud, we're allowed to use the ellyptical machine for the PRT in my command now. I am no rock star athlete, but even I think that the Navy's standards (and PT in OCS) are weak. I'm sure the Marine Gunnies (at Navy OCS) wish it was tougher.

As for the "joke" that is Navy OCS Pt... it's not that much of a joke... but it's no training to be a world-class athlete. It's a good workout every morning... nothing more, nothing less.

I'm with Kmac on this one..

Besides morning PT, which was not all that long or bad, the only real excercise other wise was the random beatdowns for stupidity..

Aside from a certain Saturday....

There were maybe 3 or 4 rough runs at OCS in 13 weeks. I think they were more rough due to a combo of Freak Humidity and being extremely hung over.

I think the eliptical is a good option for those with knee problems or other issues. The way I have seen it treated is you have to have a "Reason" to do it.

Only at Navy OCS can that be an excuse...or can you go out drinking at Marine OCS too?

If I remember correctly, those were the formation runs on Saturday. I actually enjoyed those quite a bit because the cadences were typically non-PC and somewhat entertaining. I guess I shouldn't say that PT was a joke, but I know that Gunny Cagle wanted to do more overall strength exercises, rather than just slow runs. Do you remember the day we actually got to run sprints, do pull-ups, and all the other stuff? It almost felt like we were actually "training" for something. Good times, good times. PT was my favorite part of the day... staying awake learning about a subject that was either irrelevant to aviation (mo boards) or learning an incredibly easy subject that was inversely proportional to the amount of time spent on it... that was not so much fun. And my final statement:

The ONLY POSITIVE TRAINING at OCS came from Marine Corps drill instructors.

Plenty of fools go out and get hammered on liberty, typically to come back and face the suck because PT Monday Mornings is usually tough as hell just because of that fact and the staff is rested. For my company they scheduled intro to the Combat Course the day we returned from that first fat and lazy liberty and nobody hydrated enough over the weekend. We had more drop outs on those combat runs then any other run that took place at OCS.

Things that were harder at Navy AOCS:
Punitive PT
Inspections (RLPs)
Academics
DOR policy (you say it, you're gone that instant)
Eating chow (procedures)

Things that were harder at Marine OCS:
Regular PT
Leadership challenges (by a great deal)
Living Conditions


Things that are the same either place:
The chow tastes the same.

The biggest difference is that in the navy, if you just shut up, blend in, and hack it, you'll pass. Nobody makes you prove that you can lead. At Marine OCS, you can be doing fine until the end, punt some leadership billet into the grandstands, and get sh!tcanned that very week.

Libbo was much better at AOCS (longer and higher quality). I got much more sleep there, too.

The redass factor is about the same.

Are there any people who honestly give it their all and still can't get excellent low on the way out? What happens to those people?

They get rolled until they stop sucking.

I see you've been researching your first few days with Brett this summer.

No actually I'm contemplating what will happen on this first saturday that everyone seems so hush hush about, with the look on their face as if they just got a prostate exam.

First Saturday....

[MadScientist]Whuhahahaha[/MadScientist]

You will see.....