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CMV-22B Osprey Rollout

Flash

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Per Wikipedia (so who knows):
“The USMC variant of the Osprey received the MV-22 designation and the U.S. Air Force variant received CV-22; this was reversed from normal procedure to prevent Marine Corps Ospreys from having a conflicting designation with aircraft carriers (CV).”

That's a new one. A Marine once mentioned to a few of us that it was a little bit political, with the 'M' implying it was more than just a mere 'cargo' aircraft.

Why they just couldn't call it the CV-22C I have no idea.
 

BarryD

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That's a new one. A Marine once mentioned to a few of us that it was a little bit political, with the 'M' implying it was more than just a mere 'cargo' aircraft.

Why they just couldn't call it the CV-22C I have no idea.
Funny considering the Phrog didn't need an 'M' to be more than a mere 'cargo' aircraft. Yay politics I guess . . .
 

HAL Pilot

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What drove the need to put an HF comm radio on CMV-22? It seems liked quaint/dated technology where satcom voice is probably easier.

Assuming equipped with HF can you talk to ship on it over the horizon? What other scenarios is old school HF used other than listening to BBC.
They will also probably be transiting FIRs where if you're not using CPDLC, you're using HF for position reports. You data link with Oceanic Controllers using satellite. You talk with Oceanic Controllers using HF. Every civilian aircraft going into oceanic airspace is required to have operable HF regardless if they have satellite data link (CPDLC) or satellite voice.
 

Uncle Fester

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VRM-30 Established at NASNI

The Navy stood up its first squadron that will field the CMV-22B in a Friday ceremony. The Titans of Fleet Logistics Multi-Mission Squadron (VRM) 30 will be the first unit to field the replacement for the Navy’s fleet of C-2A Greyhound carrier onboard delivery (COD) aircraft.

Stupid *and* contradictory *and* not really true designation. Hat trick! What’s wrong with “Fleet Tiltrotor Logistics Squadron”?
 

DocT

Dean of Students
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This would surprise me exactly zero. Gotta keep the helo stink off all those amazing tailhook pilots. ?

There’s no practical or adaptability reason to restrict helo pilots from flying Ospreys. That being said the ability to hover is not a prerequisite to flying Plopters. I agree it has to be to protect the tail hook sensibilities of the current COD guys.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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There’s no practical or adaptability reason to restrict helo pilots from flying Ospreys. That being said the ability to hover is not a prerequisite to flying Plopters. I agree it has to be to protect the tail hook sensibilities of the current COD guys.
Tailhook? I’m no expert, but I don’t recall seeing a tailhook on a Plopter.
 

SynixMan

HKG Based Artificial Excrement Pilot
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I can see why VRC would want this, they have done their job and done it very well for decades and probably could use fewer new 'bright idea fairies' when transitioning to a new airframe. Nothing against helo folks, I've just seen to many bright idea fairies come into communities thinking they needed to change things from the long-established norms but they mostly just add work and pain to the mix.

I’ve said this previously, but the logistics of going to a CVN who’s ready and waiting for you in an air plan cycle vs waiting for green deck on an LPD and/or arguing with Greencrown on an LHA are different beasts. VRC guys are super capable, I’m sure, but it’s assurdely new ground.
 

Flash

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I’ve said this previously, but the logistics of going to a CVN who’s ready and waiting for you in an air plan cycle vs waiting for green deck on an LPD and/or arguing with Greencrown on an LHA are different beasts. VRC guys are super capable, I’m sure, but it’s assurdely new ground.

While VRC V-22’s would be able to supply those ships now I would suspect they’ll still be tied up with their primary mission of supplying the CSG/CBG. Even if they added those platforms into the mix those aren’t high hurdles to overcome, it is the general management and mission creep I would be worried about if there were a significant number of transitions outside the community.

I don’t get the angst, however minor it is, about not being able to transition into the community. VRC already has a significant cadre of folks to transition to the new platform and they will likely plus up the number of studs to fill in the extra pilot billets, so while they could likely use a few transitions they likely wouldn’t need a lot. So it is a lot less ‘tailhook pride’ and more just the practicality of transitioning a community from one platform to a new one while maintaining the core mission.
 

Gatordev

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I don’t get the angst, however minor it is, about not being able to transition into the community.

Seems pretty clear to me. People want into the community and the chances they'll get in are super low. Thus, angst.
 
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