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Carrier deployments

exNavyOffRec

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CNO said not too long ago to expect CVN deployments to be 8+ months and amphib deployments to be even longer.

Something is going to have to give, there is only so much "gas" in the tank so to speak, they can't do refuelings early due to the schedule so someone down the road will have a mess to figure out.
 

exNavyOffRec

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Do you get a reasonable amount of time off in between deployments, to catch up on family affairs etc.

Sometimes yes and sometimes no, one carrier just deployed and they just came back in April? and I was on one that we had lots of time off in homeport. It is all luck of the draw, you take the good with the bad.
 
Something is going to have to give, there is only so much "gas" in the tank so to speak, they can't do refuelings early due to the schedule so someone down the road will have a mess to figure out.
I wonder how much increased deployment lengths affects the percentage of people that retire right at 20 years. I would bet that it's a significant change.
 

Brett327

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Which will work out well as we continue to "rightsize." What would be worse would be a period of downsizing during an economic boom. DoD would be paying SRBs out their asses.
 

Uncle Fester

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Do you get a reasonable amount of time off in between deployments, to catch up on family affairs etc.

Something to remember is that you're not "off" when not on deployment. You spend a significant amount of time on the road or on the Boat or otherwise away from home during the training cycle leading up to deployment. I've heard plenty of spouses say that workups are tougher to deal with than deployment...deployment, you can settle into a routine; workups are six weeks gone, three weeks home, two weeks gone, ten days home, four weeks gone, etc. I always thought workups are tougher on the sailors, too, kinda for the same reason. Cruise, you're off to see the world and do your mission and you can get into a routine. Workups, they're trying to cram as much as they can into the time they have, because being underway is expensive.

The Inter-Deployment Training Cycle (IDTC) is supposed to be roughly 6 months deployed, then six months "unit level training" (i.e., training within the squadron, not part of the air wing), and six months of workups for the next cruise. In reality, it hasn't worked that way for the last decade or more. Less ships and planes but same or greater requirements means the schedule goes right the fuck out the window, and most likely not in your favor.
 

robav8r

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Some great advice I got years ago which still holds true today (and is useful in managing spouse/significant other expectations): be ready to deploy at anytime while assigned to a sea duty UIC - period. Schedules are great, but they will always be something to deviate from. Until you PCS to shore duty and have checked in, all bets are off. And . . . . even on shore duty, things can get interesting with IA's/GSA's, selection board memberships, TAD for training/schools, you get the picture . . . . .
 

RobLyman

- hawk Pilot
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:confused: ...longing for "short" 8 month deployments. Why did I do this? Oh yeah...no more PCS moves, every other Monday off, and a FIRS and reserve retirement!
 

picklesuit

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So how does the "typical" Shooter tour roll for those of you who did your disassociated time? Train, qual, deploy, teach? Length of standard tour? Thanks, Pickle.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
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3 weeks of worthless school in Lakehurst, NJ followed by a few days in either SD or Norfolk for firefighting and another worthless school. After that it all depends on where your boat lies in the training and deployment cycle. If you are in the yards, you will likely report aboard, get your feet under you, and then go TAD to another boat to get qualified. In any case, you will typically take on an easy ground job and bide your time until workups start in earnest. It typically takes about 4-5 weeks of flying with an airwing on board minimum to get qualified. 2 months is more realistic. Once deployment starts and you are qualified, life is fairly easy. You will shoot, eat, play XBox, and hit the gym. The schedule is usually broken up so that you are on deck 4 hours or so a day depending on how many qualified guys you have. Once you are qualified you also start instructing new shooters. You will eventually get a division officer job about a year into your tour. That can be extremely busy at times, but is pretty manageable. A lot of that depends on how good or worthless your chiefs are and how well the shooters work with the Warrant/LDOs in Air Dept.
The orders are 2 years, which is nice, but all depends on the Dept Head board. I was there 27 months, some guys were there for 18.
Out of those 27 months, I was gone about 16 of them either TAD or underway for deployment/workups. Being on a PNW carrier, you will see about an extra week or so of gone time each underway because you have to go down to SD for airwing on load and it is a 3 day transit each way plus a one day on load.
 
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