Another nail in the coffin of Old-School Naval Avaition..

It was unofficially condoned by many commands in DC including the Joint Staff (the folks in 'joint' commands were able to get away with it a lot easier) until a SWO Director of Navy Staff put a stop to it in 2008 or so. There are still a few that may wear their bags but it is rare. I wonder if that changes with this new rule though, a lot of folks wear aquaflage to work in DC (not sure about the Pentagon), they may put out more restrictive regs for DC as they have in the past.

"(D) OUTER WEAR: BROWN LEATHER JACKET. GREEN NOMEX JACKETS ARE
ONLY AUHTORIZED ON BASE AND AFLOAT"

Why is the leather jacket even mentioned? Just as a statement? The brown leather jacket IS outer wear?
Lucky me, I get to create a PPt. for the wing on the changes!(Voluntold)

Yes sir, thank you.
Also, FWIW, its nice that tan is authorized again, but we don't get issued them anymore. I received 4 sage green, as did most all of us youngins (on the Navy side).

Man, I'm with you. I was hoping that during the CONA year, they might have allowed AWGs "with ribbons" (as in the VERY old days...) as a sort of beta-test. But, they didn't, and I frankly think AWGs have been relegated to the dust bin of Naval Aviation history. Hard to imagine that any future CNO would have it on his list of "things to do" to bring back an aviation-only uniform, no matter how classy it was.
OBTW...because I don't think I ever said it before...MasterBates tried to do it the right way...penned a very well-researched and clearly articulated point paper/request "From the Fleet" on the whole AWGs thing. Got it routed, and supported, up to a pretty high step on the chain of command. Nice work, MB! Sorry it didn't pan out as you intended, but you fought a damned good fight. I, for one, wish you were still in uniform. If only so that "the system" could continue to kick you in the balls.
I'm putting my money on the "MB for SECNAV" line...

Bought my first set of Greens with a "dead horse" in '60, but never saw any worn with ribbons, just wings. We did have a dentist on the Number Ten boat that wore them. He had to have the sleeve insignia made at the Diamond patch co in Yoko though.

Sounds to me like we need to get our hands on some tan nomex jackets...

A funny story from the old days regarding wearing flight jackets off-base: Wearing the jackets was verboten; so much so that at one time in the late 70's at Cecil Field, a separate jacket spotting gate guard was stationed at the front gate whose sole purpose was to catch perpetrators in the act of trying to sneak through wearing their jackets on cold mornings. Driving down 103rd Street in the morning, approaching the gate, it was common to see cars weaving back and forth as pilots were removing their jackets as they drove. One morning there appeared alongside the road, about a quarter mile from the front gate, a professionally painted and constructed sign about the size of a 4x8 sheet of plywood that read, "CAUTION: FLIGHT JACKET REMOVAL AREA". Sadly, it lasted less than a day....and no one ever found out who was responsible for erecting it. But it was classic.

I stumbled into one at a squadron sponsored aviator Christmas. It seems an SKC had been stockpiling and the Wing was on the hunt for PreX of any kind. Funny how everyone magically was able to find enough flightsuits, etc. Of course, my rare find was a small pile of Summer Weight Tan Nomex.

I think I may be able to get my hands on one. I have some time though...at least fifty days before I can start sticking it to the man?

Somebody needs to make me SECNAV. Who is in contention for President or at least Senator with influence before I am too old to get my own private COD?

Why have a VIP COD when you could have one of these?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_VA-3B_at_Nellis_AFB.jpeg#section_1

Because I know how to fly a COD.

Scored as a "Shack". Check switches safe...cleared to RTB.

Probably the best reason I've ever heard for an addition to the "Executive Airlift Squadron"...or whatever the hell it's called at Andrews...

Miramar was worse. Someone before me in this thread has made mention of the "uniquely challenging days" at "Fightertown USA" under the command of a certain COMFITAEWWINGPAC who's "JOPA Callsign" was "Field Day". 'Nuff said...
One of my most enduring memories of that time is coming to work through the North Gate off of Miramar Road...in a drenching rain...and seeing the CO of another squadron co-located in our same hangar...soaked to the skin in his khaki windbreaker (allowable outerwear...and those sucked major, by the way...) helping the Marine on the gate check that no criminals were coming through in flight jackets or flight suits. Rule was...if your JO was the last guy caught...you had the duty until you caught someone else's JO. I hope to hell there was some meeting of the Skippers where they all agreed to a "watch bill" wherein every squadron would rotate a sacrificial lamb JO through the gate just to share the pain. Don't know that was the case...but would have been HAPPY to have taken one for the team if it was...
Ah...the things we do for Naval Aviation. Don't even get me going on "Bird Watch" Duty...same COMFIT...same timeframe...same madness. We chuckle about it now...

There might have been some BS rules, but the punishments weren't much and they definitely were not the career-enders they are today.

Well, I think THAT part is true...for sure.

I was at Shaw AFB in S. Carolina and a similar rule was applicable to the "Days Since Last DUI" counter at the main gate.
If you got caught for a DUI, you were responsible to go out the main gate every morning at 0630 and change the number. You had that duty until someone else got bagged, and then they had the responsibility to change the number to "1" the next morning.
It was actually a pretty effective tool since it was visible to the rest of the junior folks of the hazards of drinking and driving.

Did they wait for somebody to be convicted or was an arrest enough?

I never asked that question. The way it was explained was the person who has to change the number was the last person "who had a DUI".

Generally they will punish without regard to the status of civilian courts. Know a number of troops doing the park at gate DUI lot/walk of shame or catch a ride since they're still serving their 1 year on base driving suspension even w/charges dropped.