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ACIP increase for all my (USMC) friends

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
Are you really that oblivious to the HM and HMH maintenance/red stripe shitstorm of the last couple years? Coupled with a couple high profile mishaps and low squadron morale...and now you have the current status.

I'm aware of that, I was just having trouble parsing your sentence structure there. HM bonus I get. HSM I'm having a bit more trouble understanding- I didn't know they were having a DH shortfall.
 
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back in the day you could accept that bonus at year 6, or a year early at year 5.
Now you can't accept it until after a DH screen...so year 9 or 10?
doesn't make sense.
 

Gatordev

Well-Known Member
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
I'm aware of that, I was just having trouble parsing your sentence structure there. HM bonus I get. HSM I'm having a bit more trouble understanding- I didn't know they were having a DH shortfall.

I think the data may be more public in another year's cycle, but as I said above, anecdotally, it's interesting to hear and/or be a part of discussions by/with HSM JOs, and very competitive JOs, at that.
 

SynixMan

HKG Based Artificial Excrement Pilot
pilot
Contributor
I think the data may be more public in another year's cycle, but as I said above, anecdotally, it's interesting to hear and/or be a part of discussions by/with HSM JOs, and very competitive JOs, at that.

While the plural of anecdote isn’t fact, I’ve heard the same amongst my helo peers. Lots of “sustained super performances” types applying FTS or just straight up leaving. I’ve said this before, but I think the “helo master plan” generation of JOs are starting to realize the game is rigged.
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
Article out today in USNI. Article states that: The Navy worries the prospect of better pay, benefits, and lifestyle will lure aviators to the private sector, where the average annual salary for pilots is $105,720, according to a U.S. Bureau of Labor and Statistics (BLS) report. In the author's link to the government's Bureau of Labor Statistics, it states that the Job Outlook for 2016 to 2026 is a 4% gain - slower than average. Something tells me these numbers are misleading...

Growing Demand for Civilian Pilots Push Navy to Triple Bonuses for Some Senior Aviators

https://news.usni.org/2018/03/21/gr...h-navy-triple-aviator-department-head-bonuses
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
It's probably very accurate. It's all commercial pilots, which includes a lot of aviation fields that aren't growing. The civilian rotary wing side is stagnant to declining. Part of that is the deep sea oil slump, part is insurance companies not paying for EMS, and part is UAS replacing light helos. Pipeline and power line patrol are going to die out in the next few years.

Obviously the airline sector is growing while the supply of pilots remains tight. That's what many here are seeing, and why the 4% doesn't make sense off the bat.

I wouldn't be surprised if the airlines start pressuring regulators to reduce crews and increase automation. They'll lobby for short-haul and cargo flights to be single-pilot. Some Congressman with an avionics manufacturer in his district will be happy to oblige.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
pilot
None
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Contributor
I wouldn't be surprised if the airlines start pressuring regulators to reduce crews and increase automation. They'll lobby for short-haul and cargo flights to be single-pilot. Some Congressman with an avionics manufacturer in his district will be happy to oblige.
Working in the technology industry with less than 600hrs pilot time, this is what gives me pause about ever jumping ship to take my place at the bottom of the union scrotum pole. When it’s time to be senior enough to mint those gold bricks, are they still going to be minting them?
 

zippy

Freedom!
pilot
Contributor
Working in the technology industry with less than 600hrs pilot time, this is what gives me pause about ever jumping ship to take my place at the bottom of the union scrotum pole. When it’s time to be senior enough to mint those gold bricks, are they still going to be minting them?

Airlines purchase aircraft for use over a 20+ year period... First someone would need to developer the technology to make it practical, then FAA and ICAO Regulations would have to change to allow certification and development of a new type. There are currently zero airliners certified for single pilot flight operations... you’re safe for at least another 20 years before for such a thing to become common (ie phasing out of current dual pilot airline fleets in favor of fleets of single pilot airliners... the technology isn’t mature enough currently to make it on the 797 that should come out within the next 5-10 years or so). Even when the technology does become available, airlines aren’t just going to dump billions of dollars into new fleets to save on relatively moderate pilot costs at the expense of ones that are paid off and making $$$ with plenty of life in them.

In the next 20 years the major US airlines need to hire 20,000 pilots just replace the ones retiring.

5 year Regional FOs with zero TPIC time are getting calls from legacies...

With Over 500hrs you quality for the MTP fixed wing top off programs offered by some regionals to get you to 750 R-ATP mins. You’ll be at regional within 12 months and have a decent shot at being at a major in five as the pilot deficit increases.

When these single pilot airliners start show up you’ll probably be about a Captain with 20 years on property at a major...
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
If it’s a FBW aircraft, it wouldn’t need to be a whole new type. Personnel costs may be moderate at any given time, but they last forever.

I’m not saying this is a tomorrow thing, but at the rate technology is moving, it’ll happen with the lives of everyone (well almost everyone) reading this. If you’re in your forties, you might not see it by retirement. In your thirties, probably, and twenties? Hell, I’ll bet cargo will go completely automated within their flying years.
 
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