Discussion in 'Paths to a Commission' started by novakw2, Sep 13, 2011.
Ladies and Gentelmen of Airwarriors,
... what percentage get jets?
OOOOOOHHHH, we can have FUN with this thread? Any other thoughts on completing this first post?
... I'm on a horse.
I was talking to this former Navy fighter pilot and Desert Storm Ace named Skeeterman... He said that I can get jets even though I'm 39 years old right now. Since he is going to write me a letter of recommendation and I REALLY want to fly and I'm not taking no for an answer, it's all but guaranteed. When do I get my keys to Hornet?
They have KEYS???? Shit. I need to study.
First, I would like to start by apologizing for my first post on this website. I didn't realize that pressing "Enter" will automatically post!
Let me start off by telling you guys a little bit about myself and my situation. I am a highly motivated 23 year old male, who recently graduated from high ranking college on the East coast. I come from a lower class background, and had to work my way through college, not to mention I am the first person from my family to ever attend college. I worked as a cashier at a local grocery store throughout highschool, and while attending college, I worked and still work as a highly respected EMT at a fast paced urban 911 ambulance company. I also worked ona pHd level thesis on prostate cancer research during my senior year of college at a medical school close to my university, and have given numerous presentations on my work to the entire medical school faculty and student body.
I am also an active member in my community as I coach my little brother’s youth football team. I also played football and ran track during high school.
Unfortunately I have also had my mistakes and misfortunes in life. I had 2 underage drinking charges while a teenager, while both charges were dropped and expunged due to the fact I blew zeros both times, I was in the wrong place at the wrong time in the eyes of over zealous local police officers who have a reputation for tormenting the youth because they are creative in finding ways not to pay their own health insurance. Also, I graduated with a meager 2.7 GPA in college due to my obsession with hands on learning while working as an EMT, and my cancer research. Although my GPA is low, my college was narrow minded in their preparation of young men and women for the “ real world”. They bombarded you with trivial, useless information, akin to jumping through hoops of fire, and I simply had better things to do than study more than the 3 hours a night ( see my list of extracurriculars) I already had. Most of the people I graduated with missed out on the things I experienced ( ie, leadership and problem solving) just to forget the “ extra things” we were taught the day after a test like everyone else. This is part of the reason why I think I may do myself and my country a service by trying to become a Marine officer.
I am not a lazy, hard boozing loser. as I scored a 32 on my MCATS, ( really good considering most med schools average 27ish for matriculating college seniors), and scored a 90 on my ASVAB in high school. I can run 3 miles in 19:30, can do 25 pull ups and 115 crunches in 2 minutes.
I have spoken to two Marine OSO’s thus far. One guy told me he is so backed up he doesn’t even want to talk to me in person until December due to the backup of officer slots, and the other said I have no chance due to the underage’s.
Given the current economic situation, and influx of OCC applicants, do I stand a chance at being accepted to Marine OCC? Or will I be turned down for narrow minded underachievers with 4.0’s in underwater basket weaving?
P.S. Although he is not a Marine, Colin Powell had a 2.3 GPA in college.
Rick Perry had a 2.5 GPA in Animal Sciences and he flew for the Air Force. Just sayin.
I can't give you any solid advice other than to say that there are quite a few people (on this forum) who didn't have stellar grades in college and are now winged Navy pilots. The extra stuff helps, and so does a good ASTB.
And my guess was going to be, "Ladies and gentlemen of Airwarriors, 1 in 10 members of this site has genital herpes."
The military may not be for you.
Yeah, if you can't get the easy trivial stuff down, why will anyone trust you with the important stuff?
I don't post much, but frankly that attitude won't get you far. No one cares what you opine about the quality of higher learning. Given the opportunity to be an Officer in any branch, the sad reality is you are reduced to two pieces of paper of year explaining your worth. So, you are a metric on paper in the eyes of Big "enter service choice here"; and when you explain yourself to the board for consideration with "wrong place at the wrong time in the eyes of over zealous local police officers who have a reputation for tormenting the youth because they are creative in finding ways not to pay their own health insurance", the reviewing Officer will ask for an alley-oop enroute to the tin can as your application sails through the air. You may or may not be a 'minority', but if you went to a 'minority' college you will in fact have a leg up. Facts is facts....
Different time, different culture, different military, different man, and different commissioning source! So... What is your point? Maybe a little more concentration on improving yourself will work better for you in the future.
I don't think any active Marine OSO's post on here. So with that the most productive answer you could possibly get would be something like: Don't give up on your dreams, keep trying, try different OSO's, different branches of service (the Marine Corps is really downsizing these days), etc...
Telling us your story doesn't do a whole lot for you. You are gonna have to talk to an OSO and get one to submit your application. Good luck.
Also, your attitude, at least in writing, comes across as kinda crappy. Don't have such a chip on your shoulder. You knew what you were getting in to when you put other things above classes you didn't feel were important, so you can't complain about having a shitty GPA. It's not your peers or your schools fault.
You just perfectly and unwittingly described a large proportion of military training.
To give you an idea of the recruiting climate for Marine OCS right now, they totally cancelled every class for this coming summer, except some slots for females and some reserve slots. I heard there might be as little as one platoon of candidates at Quantico this summer.
First of all, I don't give a flying F**** if I fly or not, no pun intended. Second of all I am not " sandbagger" who would rather take the easier road just to pretend I am better than everybody else so I can look like a superstar and point fingers at people before actually showing the size of my balls. Finally, I am not saying it is my school's fault I have a mediocre GPA, I would rather independentaly prove my worth through self innovation, and out of the box thinking than trying to see who can be the best at doing the same thing the same way. I don't recal any historical refrences or figures who made history or who won battles by trying to outcompete their peers/ competion at the same game the same way. If that were the case we would be reading this thread in Russian, or there would be a cockroach standing were you are instead of yourself. Needless to say I'm thrilled the military takes so much pride in their unprecise manner of choosing applicants. According to some of you it's now what you bring to the table, but instaead how well you match the tablecloth? Suppose some one is really good at doing what their told to do as they are told to do it. They will certainly make excellent enlisted men. What happens if they are stranded after an IED takes out their convoy an they are told to hold their position for the next 20 hours waiting for reinforcements? Should they follow the book and hold out on limited ammunition, and wait due to their danger close position to the enemy, negating any air support? Or should they get the hell out of there and cross coordinate with other branches of the serive, or even other coalition national forces and call in the closest aircraft, B 52 or what not and carpet bomb the area as the Taliban take the bate and get smashed while picking through the abandoned vehicles? Believe it or not some of you would actually make good commies......
Judging by how well you took criticism, not very big. The first thing you're gonna need is thick skin. Work on that.
Also, it's a plain fact the military is SWAMPED with applicants right now who don't have shitty attitudes, mediocre GPAs, and excuses for both of them. Enjoy the banhammer that may be coming your way for the commies comment.
Your right, mabye I should have been an underwater basket weaving major....
Please, by all means feel free to post asvab scores, sat scores, and college major before you all run your mouth.
You're not helping yourself much here by running your mouth. You DO realize that almost half the members that replied to this thread are Officers or priors right? Actually you probably didn't cause you are too busy with your head up your ass.
Show some respect. They have served their country and have way more experience on a subject matter that you probably know very little about. YOU came on here asking for help, so take what you can get and be productive with it. No one cares that you are innovative or can prove yourself by thinking out of the box just because you say so. You have to have the credentials, if you would. So join the line, because you are gonna be dealt with the SAME WAY every other applicant gets dealt with (based on their GPA, ASTB, EC, LORs, Motivational Statement, etc).
You have a low GPA. Pursue a Masters program or take classes to boost your GPA. As far as the run ins with the law..well you're on your own with that one. When it comes down to you and another applicant who doesn't need a waiver for run-ins with the law, take a wild guess who they're gonna choose.
I've busted my ass through the first half of an enlistment and then the Academy, through TBS and through API just to have some prick.... who hasn't proved shit.... come on here and basically state why he fucking "deserves" to be where I'm at.... You my friend, you are an idiot troll. This post actually got under my skin a little bit. You don't have the right attitude to make it. With the excuses you've already made for yourself, I can take a wild guess that you'll probably fail at life...
TBS gauges the ability to make decisions like that under pressure you fucking tool... it is no accident that we are the greatest military in the world. Don't you think someone alot fucking smarter than you thought of the fact that officers would need the ability to think outside the box in an ever changing combat environment. STFU about things you know nothing about. Flight school isn't about marching to your own drum, rules are written in blood.... you deviate and try to innovate outside your aircraft's performance envelope.... you die plain and simple.
Usually I stay out of these threads, but I'm bored. That chip on your shoulder is so large I suspect you'd be hard pressed to fit into a cockpit or a tank.
You made choices (to pursue your out-of-the-box non-standard education, to hang out at drunken parties in a city where you knew the cops were supposedly over-zealous, etc.). Now you deal with the consequences. You can either man up and take responsibility for your choices and their supposed outcomes, or you can can bitch about it when someone on the internet slaps you across the face with the cold, hard halibut of reality. I'm no expert, and I didn't stay at a Holiday in Express last night, but I can make a pretty good guess on which of those 2 choices is least likely to lead to you being a Marine.
Oh, and didn't take it, good enough to get me into Mensa, and English.
You weren't bright enough to figure out that a 2.7 GPA will disqualify you from almost every medical school in the developed world? Why on earth did you take the mcats? did you have $200 burning a hole in your pocket and 8 hours to kill?? That's some "out of the box" thinking that's for sure.
And no, you are not Colin Powell. Save yourself some pain and the taxpayers a couple of bucks in wasted time and go become a lawyer or something. Skip the Military.
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