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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

Chris94

CWO selected
I know multiple people have gone from 4 -> 7 by practicing video games with an inverted Y axis.

I assume that was the source of the struggling and now the audio portion?
Yeah, that was the source, at least I think it was. I've been using X-Plane a lot considering I don't really own any other video games. I've been using the yoke I got a long time ago for X-Plane but recently ordered a throttle and joystick to mimic the portion of the ASTB as close as possible. Just need one more point next go around!
 

bsonnenb123

New Member
I'm a little late to the party, but I tutor high school algebra and pre-calc.
I would set it up a different way. Instead of having two variables, try putting everything in terms of X. Set one angle (the supplement) as X-20, and set the other angle gets set as 4X

You know, because they are supplementary, they have to add up to 180. By that logic, you can say:

(X-20) + 4X = 180

5X = 200

X=40

So your angle is 20 degrees, and the supplement is 160.
This is incorrect. The answer is 140. The supplement of 140 is 40. 40 x 4 is 160. 140 is 20 degrees less than 160. The answer is 140
 
I took the ASTB for the second time today.

My first scores: 4/5/4
Second scores: 5/7/5

I don't understand why my FOFAR was only a 5 this time. The first time I took the ASTB, I didn't fully grasp the compass trick for the UAV. I answered about 5 or so wrong and took about 2 - 5 seconds since I was confused. So this time around, I made sure I understood this section and practiced it a lot. The second time, I only missed 2 or 3 and answered between 1-3 seconds. I don't understand how I only got a 5 since I seemed to do way better than the last time. Is there another portion/section of the test that counts toward your FOFAR? Does anyone have any recommendations or similar experience?
 

StevenBlue18

Multi Life
I took the ASTB for the second time today.

My first scores: 4/5/4
Second scores: 5/7/5

I don't understand why my FOFAR was only a 5 this time. The first time I took the ASTB, I didn't fully grasp the compass trick for the UAV. I answered about 5 or so wrong and took about 2 - 5 seconds since I was confused. So this time around, I made sure I understood this section and practiced it a lot. The second time, I only missed 2 or 3 and answered between 1-3 seconds. I don't understand how I only got a 5 since I seemed to do way better than the last time. Is there another portion/section of the test that counts toward your FOFAR? Does anyone have any recommendations or similar experience?
How did you do on the dichotic listening section and the inverted tracking? Practice dichotic listening and playing video games inverted.
 

peppergunner

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I took the ASTB for the second time today.

My first scores: 4/5/4
Second scores: 5/7/5

I don't understand why my FOFAR was only a 5 this time. The first time I took the ASTB, I didn't fully grasp the compass trick for the UAV. I answered about 5 or so wrong and took about 2 - 5 seconds since I was confused. So this time around, I made sure I understood this section and practiced it a lot. The second time, I only missed 2 or 3 and answered between 1-3 seconds. I don't understand how I only got a 5 since I seemed to do way better than the last time. Is there another portion/section of the test that counts toward your FOFAR? Does anyone have any recommendations or similar experience?
UAV affects the last score.

Throttle and Stick and Dichotic Listening affect second score.

First score is ANIT, Math, and Mechanics.
 

Meyerkord

Well-Known Member
pilot
Is there another portion/section of the test that counts toward your FOFAR?
Per https://www.usnavy.vt.edu/documents/astboverview.pdf:

The following general guidance is offered to assist examinees in preparing for an ASTB test or retest.
  • Academic Qualifications Rating (AQR): This score is affected by performance on all subtests, but the strongest influence is made by the Math Skills Test.
  • Pilot Flight Aptitude Rating (PFAR): This score is affected by performance on all subtests, but the greatest contribution is made by the Aviation & Nautical Info and Spatial Apperception Tests.
  • Flight Officer Flight Aptitude Rating (FOFAR): This score is affected by performance on all subtests, but the strongest influence is made by the Math Skills Test.
  • Officer Aptitude Rating (OAR): This score is affected by performance on the first three subtests, Math Skills, Reading Comprehension, and Mechanical Comprehension.
 

bjjhelm

Just send it
I took the ASTB for the second time today.

My first scores: 4/5/4
Second scores: 5/7/5

I don't understand why my FOFAR was only a 5 this time. The first time I took the ASTB, I didn't fully grasp the compass trick for the UAV. I answered about 5 or so wrong and took about 2 - 5 seconds since I was confused. So this time around, I made sure I understood this section and practiced it a lot. The second time, I only missed 2 or 3 and answered between 1-3 seconds. I don't understand how I only got a 5 since I seemed to do way better than the last time. Is there another portion/section of the test that counts toward your FOFAR? Does anyone have any recommendations or similar experience?


How's your stats knowledge? I will say that, while understanding the breakdown of which subtests contribute most to each score is helpful, it is VERY difficult to get up into those upper scores purely because the scores are on a percentile system. You don't increase scores at a fixed rate, meaning you have to perform nearly logarithmically better in order to move up only a point or two. So, feeling like you did "way better" doesn't mean you'll improve as much as you would feel on a normal fixed point test. I'm only mentioning this because I didn't fully grasp that until AFTER I took mine, and I would have felt much better understanding that beforehand while obsessing over everyone else's scores. This is the page that made the most sense to me explaining that. Hope it makes you feel better!

https://militaryflighttests.com/astb-scores/

Obviously if you know all this, disregard :)
 
How does GPA calculation for both Bachelors and Masters Degree work? I know some PA states that Masters degree supersedes Bachelors degree. Does that mean that they will only count your Masters GPA? can somebody enlighten me
 

McPeek33

Member
How does GPA calculation for both Bachelors and Masters Degree work? I know some PA states that Masters degree supersedes Bachelors degree. Does that mean that they will only count your Masters GPA? can somebody enlighten me

I was told that they will combine all the college credits to form an overall GPA. Your Bachelors will weigh in heavier though because it has more credits. I also took summer classes at a community college which were not included in my Bachelors GPA but go towards the overall which helps me bump it up. Curious if that’s what others were told too
 

SirDataDetective

Active Member
Hello, All. I recently re-took the OAR and scored a 64 after scoring a 57 my first time around. Big thanks to all of those who uploaded study guides and shared their test day experiences - they were a blessing! The flashcards on Proprofs are also very helpful, so read those over!

I figured I'd do my part to return to the community some of the major help I received from it. Here are a few things that I remember being tested on from each section:

Math:
Some complicated fraction equations involving negative exponents in numerator and denominator.
Solving for the score of one person when told that the average scores of two people equals an amount less than the average.
Adding matrices.
Finding the amount where the cost of two separate companies that utilize fixed and variable costs are equal.
Complicated multi-variable systems of equations.
Probability of a rolling a specific sum when rolling two dice.
Choosing a perfect number among the provided. (MEMORIZE THESE)
Finding the cubed root from a very small exponent.
I had no DRT questions.

Reading:
I did not prepare for this section. I hated every second of it, but I believe that I did okay here. Read carefully and really analyze if the answer choices are making statements that are not in line with the provided information, or if statements are too far reaching. For those of you familiar with the GMAT's Critical Reasoning section, this is somewhat similar. There are plenty of free resources online that can help you learn to eliminate junk statements.

Mechanical:
Lots of questions on springs. Understand elastic energy and how horizontal springs experience different tension than vertical ones.
Questions on gears, including which one of a sequence is fastest.
How much rope will be used when a pulley of a certain radius rotates a certain number of times.
A few questions directly related to understanding Bernoulli's principle and Charles' Law.
The weight of an object on a planet with a separate gravity constant.
Some questions on pistons and engines.
1-2 on MA application on levers and pulleys.
Understanding a Helium balloon vs an air balloon.

A warning: it's very clear that the questions are pulled from a wide range of available topics. Do not rely on the above as an exhaustive or even predictive list of material. Almost none of the questions that I saw in my 2nd attempt were the same or even closely related the ones I saw in my first attempt, especially within the Mechanical Comprehension section. I expected to see (and prepared for) lots of questions on DRT, Work, MA Pulleys and electrical circuits as I had in my first exam - that was not the case. Luckily, I tried to study as wide a range of material as I could, focusing heavily on the subjects noted on these guides and doing practice problems on a little bit of everything. It is not enough to just read the guides over - you must do practice problems and be able to arrive to the same answers on your own using logic that you understand.

The OAR is like a box of chocolates...you may have an idea of what might be in the box, but it's never what you expect once you bite down, and the chewy caramel ones are the worst.


**For reference, I studied for about a week on my first attempt, brushing up on fundamentals and relying on past knowledge and a cheap book from Amazon on OAR/ASTB - that didn't really cut it. Using the guides on this site + open source resources for further understanding and questions is what made it all the easier. Don't think that because an equation is simple that the application of said equation on a question will be simple as well. It's hardly that straightforward, so be sure to challenge yourself on more difficult questions when possible. I did about 5 weeks of studying, ~4-5 hours a week, before my 2nd attempt. As there is a fixed amount of opportunities to take this exam, it's best to over-study and be prepared for whatever may show up on your screen on test day.

Hope this helps. Best of luck!
 
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