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RuleofLawviation

T1 Advanced
NO IT DID NOT!!! Please be aware that the old special awareness section is no longer used. The entire exam has changed so prepare accordingly. There's plenty of gouge in this thread elaborating on the new exam, including my post.

Good luck!
 

Katja Marek

New Member
Hi, everyone.

I'm taking the ASTB tomorrow and, I'm not going to lie, I'm nervous. I just barely failed the first time and I'm freaking out about taking it again. I'm not used to the jitters, because I'm actually a really good test taker. I got a 93 on my ASVAB and was able to pass the Navy's NAPT despite overwhelming sickness and not having studied math or science in over 4 years (I majored in history).

I've been studying like mad and I feel pretty competent in all of the subjects that will be presented, however while studying I'll stumble upon an question I don't know the answer to and get nervous to the point of losing focus.

Not only do I have to take the test tomorrow, but my recruiter just sprang a random PFT on me right after my ASTB. It doesn't help I bruised my ribs three weeks back and have taken that time off exercising to heal up. I've been doing some light running, but that's about it.

I've been lurking on this site for a while. All of the material here has really helped me prepare and thought I'd make a personal post.

I guess my question for this thread is if anyone has any last minute advice? I guess it's kind of redundant, because I've read through so much of the forums already, but simply posting this is helping with my nerves. Besides, I'm one of those people that likes input on a situation - the more information, the more data, the better the decision.

Thanks and have a nice day.
 
I went in yesterday for my first go at the ASTB really nervous, and with only the knowledge of a couple gouges I found on this forum + whatever I've happened to learn during this short time I've had on Earth thus far.
Came out with a 68, 9/9/9. I am *NOT* that smart (3.2 GPA, aviation engineering major), but if you stay calm and collected, and remember not to spend too much time on one question (seriously, I cannot emphasize that enough), you will kill it.

With the math, make sure to study your fractions, factoring, negative exponents, word problems with averages, and a liiiiittle bit of logs (know how they work). Don't spend 5 minutes on a problem, pick B or C and move on.

Mech Eng:Know torque and work. Know that equation. Know the idea behind it. And know other fundamental theories of mechanical engineering. If you know the ideas behind physics, you should be fine. If you are a mechanical engineer, bully for you, because you will ace it!

Reading Comprehension: STAY. CALM. I get some test anxiety. If any of you get this as well, you know that reading questions can be a little hard. So reading a passage as dry as a Kansas dust storm (I've never stepped foot in Kansas but that sounded pretty dry) is freaking impossible, especially when the point is to pick out every tiny detail of it. Here's a tip I picked up: look around you at some objects, and just repeat what color they are in your head. Sounds silly, I know, but it actually works to activate your cortex and get your mind on track. I'm not saying it will work for you, but hey, it's worth a try, right? Just don't spend 15 minutes doing it, because if you get side tracked trying to decide if that orange really is orange, you'll find that you've run out of time for the section.

UAV spatial orientation part: This one took me a little while to get the hang of, but once you get it, it is super easy. Plus, if you need to, just keep doing the practice section on the test. Here's a breakdown of what to do, assuming you already know the set up of the question:
  • Take some scrap paper, draw your cardinal directions on it; nice and big like too, make it easy on the eyes
  • The question will show the target (that dot) and an arrow that represents you and where you are coming from. Simply draw an arrow or use your pencil/hand to replicate that on the compass you drew (so if the question shows that you are coming from the SE, draw that on your own compass)
  • Now, just take your sheet of paper with your directions on it, and turn it until that arrow is pointing forwards (away from you; if your taking it on the computer, just point the arrow toward the computer)
  • Your own compass now shows the view that the front-facing camera shows you in the question! But instead of parking lots, you have a cardinal direction for each lot, thus allowing you to succeed very easily and very quickly. Congratulations!
  • Tip: I used my hand to show where I was coming from, as there is no time in between questions so drawing and erasing wastes valuable time
Personality Survey portion: Be honest, but be aggressive. They want to see someone who can make tough decisions but still uphold their own values and the values of those around them.

So keep your cool, don't fret over one questions and waste time on it, and know that you are taking this test for a damn good reason.

If anyone has any questions, I would glad to help you out, it's the least I can do for a community that has helped me out so much!
 

Katja Marek

New Member
Thanks for the responses. I appreciate it. I just got done with my surprise PFT and did better than I thought I would, my boyfriend and I both. We're both going for commissions - him for Combat Engineer and me for Pilot. I'll brush up on your suggestions KWilcox949, and congrats on that score! That's super good.

And DragonAdder, best of luck to you as well! Let me know how it goes. : )
 

DragonAdder

Member
pilot
Thanks for the responses. I appreciate it. I just got done with my surprise PFT and did better than I thought I would, my boyfriend and I both. We're both going for commissions - him for Combat Engineer and me for Pilot. I'll brush up on your suggestions KWilcox949, and congrats on that score! That's super good.

And DragonAdder, best of luck to you as well! Let me know how it goes. : )

Got a 61 8/8/8, apparently I now have the highest scores for anyone from the OSO office (for now). My experience:

-Math: Know how to use the quadratic equation in case factoring isn't possible. Make sure you plug in f(x) for f(x) and not x, I almost got my first question wrong by clicking on the trick answer but caught my mistake just in time. Second question involved solving for the circumference of a sphere given the fact that the volume and surface areas are equal (formulas were given). Fractional exponent of a number (e.g. 32^(3/5)). Had a couple questions on averages, but not the easy kind (e.g. you're given sets of data described in averages, not all individual numbers). Had a freaking question about finding the area of a crust of pizza, given that the slice of pizza had an angle of 60 degrees??? How appropriate given that it was pi day, I knew it has something to do with arc length but I just guessed and moved on. Question on the volume of a space between a cylinder inside a square box. Last one I remember was a somewhat simple algebra question involving cube roots. Was taken aback that it cut things off early but I took it as a good sign. To quote someone else on here, it's the system saying, "ok we're done here."

-Reading: Not much advice to offer here, will just repeat that you should pretend to be interested in what you're reading and only derive data from the passage itself. This section I answered the most questions compared to others.

-Mechanical: Very first question asked what happens to temperature during an isothermal expansion (stays constant), only knew this from my physics knowledge from college. Had a question on binary, whooped when I saw that. Question with 4 snapshots of an aircraft doing a loopdee loop, asked where would the G forces be strongest. Bernoulli's theorem, know how volume flow and velocity work. What info do you need to calculate work. Simple question on the final height of a rocket given a 3 second burst of acceleration/deceleration when the burst was cut off. A few questions on mechanical advantage for pulleys/ramps, e.g. how much force required, which is easier to lift or how much rope needed to pull. Name of an inductor symbol from basic circuit diagrams, though "inductor" wasn't one of the choices so I guessed. Again, it cut me off somewhat early.

-Aviation: One history question (ME-262). Had to use the standard weight for gasoline to determine how much fuel a plane needed to dump due to extra weight shifting its center of gravity. Green shirts, flaps, poop deck, name for airflow around a cylinder and pressure differences around the airfoil. Something about who an aircraft wing commander reports to, guessed CO. Also was cut off early.

-Personality: You are a leader who doesn't display outbursts when stressed, is aggressive and yet is respectful of authority. Pick one of these when presented with a pair, if a pair has both, be honest. Don't feel the need to pick a choice you picked earlier, treat each question pair as unrelated instances. Again, to quote an another user, these questions basically ask if you are a dick or an asshole.

-UAV: Similar method to what KWilcox949 suggested. Took a post it note and drew 4 squares around a central one, marking the outer ones N,S,E and W. When looking at the top down viewpoint with the triangle pointing in a certain direction toward a dot and north pointing up, I would simply orient my post it note so that the direction indicated was now at the top of my post it note (NW, SE, SW and NE would be in between the N,S, E and W squares). Then just picked the correct parking lot based on this rotation. Don't read which target lot you need to target, utilize the audio for that. Exploit the practice section as many times as you want, it will give you different examples each time so it's worth it. For the real deal, my reaction time was between 1-2.5 s, only 2 wrong.

-Dichotic Listening: Make sure you know whether to press the clutch or trigger for even/odd numbers, I was mentally rehearsing the opposite before the test, thus always read all directions for all sections just in case. About a second in between each set of alphanumeric characters voiced in each ear at the same time. Helps to lean your head in the direction of the target ear you're listening to. You could also practice this with 2 friends synchronizing speaking alphanumeric characters into each ear.

-Vertical Tracking: There is a bit of a delay associated when pushing/pulling the throttle, so be patient when waiting for the crosshair to catch up to the plane. Overcompensating is exactly what the system wants you to do. You know you're doing good in this and subsequent practical tests if the plane starts to behave more erratically/redirecting suddenly.

-Vertical and 2D Tracking: For the joystick that's associated with the 2D tracking, X axis is normal (left means left, right means right) but Y axis is inverted (e.g. pull back to go up, push forward to go down) so it may help to play some video games to get used to this. Also, be aware that when the joystick is in the rest position (centered), no motion will happen. Focus 2/3 of your attention on the 2D portion and 1/3 on the vertical tracking. If you can get green on both crosshairs at the same time, even if for an instant, it will rack up major points. Don't try to predict where the planes will go, just do your best to follow, as I believe that it takes into account average distance your crosshairs are from the planes. Also, it may help to keep your vertical crosshair within the middle 1/3 of the screen, as overcompensation is much more likely with your attention divided.

-Vertical, 2D and dichotic hearing: Longest portion, think I had to listen to each ear three times. 2/3 of your attention on the dichotic listening, 2/9 on the 2D and 1/9 on the vertical. The rate of the alphanumeric characters is the same, so you can revert back to the 2/3+1/3 rule from before during the brief gap (about a second) between each set of alphanumeric characters.

-Vertical, 2D and EMERGENCY PROCEDURES: Write down all the directions associated, and take your time to memorize them, as there is no practice portion unlike the previous sections. Two knobs will be used to change the direction of your gauges. The top knob will control your fuel, the side knob will control your power. Clutch is used to reset once adjustments have been made. I don't believe there's a way to know which direction you need to rotate the knobs, so pick a direction and slowly turn the knob, when you confirm it's the right direction, turn it all the way to min/max, otherwise turn it the other way to min/max. Fire: both gauges need to go down, then press clutch. Engine: Both gauges need to go up, press clutch. Propeller: DON'T TOUCH THE TOP KNOB ASSOCIATED WITH FUEL, turn power knob so that the power gauge goes all the way up, then press clutch (I almost pressed the clutch too early on this last part, but saved myself). When an emergency procedure pops up, drop your vertical and 2D tracking to focus on fixing it as quickly as possible, then get back to the tracking when you're done resolving it.

I'm sure there were other questions but these were the questions I can remember. Resources used: pdf study guide, books in order of usefulness: [ASTB-E Study Guide, Barron's, ARCO, Learning Express], flashcards on cram.com, sample questions on the med.navy.mil website, Marine Gouge, Marine Aviation Supplement, the pdf detailing how the practical portion works and of course all the threads here at AirWarriors. Any questions, please ask; if I don't know the answer to your question, I will find out. All feedback is welcome.
 
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Katja Marek

New Member
Oh man, rough weekend. I got a 4/5/5. Missed it by one point.

There wasn't anything in the math section I focused on in my studies. It was all really weird probability and word problems. I started freaking out that I didn't recognize any of them. I think that hurt me more than anything. The reading section was nothing, and the mechanical comprehension section was the only section I feel I improved on. None of the questions on the Aviation/Nautical section were in my study guides. There were a few history questions I could guess at, but the rest, geez, I can't even remember what they were. I think I was thoroughly freaking out by then. I think I got kicked off early. The spatial reasoning, tracking stuff and the listening comprehension I aced. It wasn't hard at all, even the emergency simulation. You just need to read the instructions over and over until you feel comfortable and know what you're doing.

Overall, I was totally bummed the entire weekend. Still am. My recruiter is going to see if I can get a waiver, but no word yet.

Congrats on your score, DragonAdder! That's really good. : )
 

Splonk

Member
Got a 57 today on the OAR.
Waiting for my other scores. Hopefully they will follow suit and be preferably 7's.

Math: When doing the practice tests this was my best section (usually only missed 1 question due to a stupid mistake, or I simply couldn't figure it out). It was much more difficult. I had rate problem -> statistics -> rate problem -> statistics -> rate problem -> statistics. There was one question about length of part of the circumference of a circle - pretty simple. I'm not even certain I had an algebra problem. I certainly didn't get easy questions like which fraction is the smallest, etc. I would definitely say know your rates and statistics. I unfortunately didn't study much statistics. Didn't get to logs or matrices, which kind of bothered me - oh well.

Reading: I don't know what to say with this - you either have it or you don't. Try to stay focused and not get flustered. The computer cut out during this and when the test reloaded I got two of the same questions as before. I definitely ran out of time on this - I'm a slow reader.

Mechanical: The gouges on this website are completely spot on. The only circuits question I got was about what an ohm was. I actually think this was my saving grace. It seemed very easy. Only two or three had short calculations.

Aviation: Very basic questions about fuselage, roll, ailerons, etc. There was one or two on nautical information. This section flew by.
Three history questions: What jet was retrofitted to be a tanker during Gulf War, first person to go mach 1, and what aircraft served as a bomber escort in WWII.
 
Studied for about a week and got a 52/5/6/5. I'm not upset at all. I think I did better than I had originally thought. I'm still pushing forward and submitting my kit hopefully early next month or mid month.
 

oceanov

MEPS Medical Technician
Took the ASTB-E this morning and received a 55 6/7/6. Was hoping for at least straight 7's but I never do well with aptitude tests no matter how long a review I do.
A little bit about myself: I am a 7 year active duty Navy Corpsman. Having spent 3 years on a cruiser helped with the Nautical questions. I've taken a few college classes. Took College Algebra last semester and currently taking Precalculus so that helped a lot.
I studied for about two months. Most of those two months was just reading through the different ASTB guide books without taking notes, getting familiar with aerodynamic and basic physics. During this time I was on the thread titled "
ASTB-E/APEX 4 Experience -DEC 2013" jotting down on a notepad all the questions and tips the high scorers have posted. In the last two weeks is when I really studied hard reviewing math concepts, memorizing physics formulas, reading about naval aviation history, and taking practice tests. I will try to remember the questions that I encountered.

MATH SKILLS TEST
This is the hardest for me. The practice tests are A LOT easier than the actual one (my fault for letting my guard down). Also The server went down 5 questions in, messing up with my train of math thought. 20 minutes later I resumed the test. Here are the topics and questions I remember:
A few average questions
Fractional exponents. If an exponent is a fraction, how do you translate it.
Geometry. 2 sides of right triangle are integers, the area of the triangle is 28 (I think it was 28), what is the triangle's perimeter?
A lot of probability questions
Strangely, no work (painter) problems at all
No logs

READING COMPREHENSION TEST

This seemed like the easiest for me. You are picking the answer that is a stated fact in the paragraph. Forget everything you know in the real world. What you need to keep an eye out is when they switch words around. Pay close attention to this. What makes it hard is that they use Navy instructions that contain a bunch of uncommon words and switch them with each other in the answers.

MECHANICAL COMPREHENSION TEST
I found this one both easy and hard for me. I only had to use the scratch paper twice during this section. Here is all that I remember from this:
converting kg to newton
What is the formula for work?
A simple pulley question
No hydraulic questions
No gear questions
Pendulums. At what point does the pendulum has the most kinetic energy?
Linear velocity
Electrical diagram. (A diagram is shown) Which bulb will light up if light is switched off?
How a spring works
mechanical advantage

AVIATION AND NAUTICAL INFORMATION TEST
With this one, be sure to know the parts of the ship, aerodynamics, parts of a plane, runway lights and heading, navy aircraft and some aviation history. It is hard to study aviation history because it is so vast. You need to have a deep interest in it. Here is what I remember:
Purpose and location of aileron on a plane
What is a "bulkhead?" No, "wall" is not an answer choice. The more formal answer is what they are looking for. Something about Structural integrity and protects from flood and fire.
Choose the aircraft that is best for attacking ground targets.
Navigation lights on a ship (red on the port, green on the starboard)
guiding lights on a runway
Forces that act on a plane
And a bonus question: Who is the first pilot to have flown faster that the speed of sound? If you watched The Right Stuff (which was recommended by a user on this website), you would know the answer.

PERFORMANCE BASED MEASURE BATTERY
This test is intimidating and confusing once you start it. The throttle is heavy AND sensitive. I was a little shaky/jittery throughout this test. But I enjoyed it. For this test, just follow the instructions and have fun.
 

ChristianM

New Member
Got a 61 8/8/8, apparently I now have the highest scores for anyone from the OSO office (for now). My experience:

-Math: Know how to use the quadratic equation in case factoring isn't possible. Make sure you plug in f(x) for f(x) and not x, I almost got my first question wrong by clicking on the trick answer but caught my mistake just in time. Second question involved solving for the circumference of a sphere given the fact that the volume and surface areas are equal (formulas were given). Fractional exponent of a number (e.g. 32^(3/5)). Had a couple questions on averages, but not the easy kind (e.g. you're given sets of data described in averages, not all individual numbers). Had a freaking question about finding the area of a crust of pizza, given that the slice of pizza had an angle of 60 degrees??? How appropriate given that it was pi day, I knew it has something to do with arc length but I just guessed and moved on. Question on the volume of a space between a cylinder inside a square box. Last one I remember was a somewhat simple algebra question involving cube roots. Was taken aback that it cut things off early but I took it as a good sign. To quote someone else on here, it's the system saying, "ok we're done here."

-Reading: Not much advice to offer here, will just repeat that you should pretend to be interested in what you're reading and only derive data from the passage itself. This section I answered the most questions compared to others.

-Mechanical: Very first question asked what happens to temperature during an isothermal expansion (stays constant), only knew this from my physics knowledge from college. Had a question on binary, whooped when I saw that. Question with 4 snapshots of an aircraft doing a loopdee loop, asked where would the G forces be strongest. Bernoulli's theorem, know how volume flow and velocity work. What info do you need to calculate work. Simple question on the final height of a rocket given a 3 second burst of acceleration/deceleration when the burst was cut off. A few questions on mechanical advantage for pulleys/ramps, e.g. how much force required, which is easier to lift or how much rope needed to pull. Name of an inductor symbol from basic circuit diagrams, though "inductor" wasn't one of the choices so I guessed. Again, it cut me off somewhat early.

-Aviation: One history question (ME-262). Had to use the standard weight for gasoline to determine how much fuel a plane needed to dump due to extra weight shifting its center of gravity. Green shirts, flaps, poop deck, name for airflow around a cylinder and pressure differences around the airfoil. Something about who an aircraft wing commander reports to, guessed CO. Also was cut off early.

-Personality: You are a leader who doesn't display outbursts when stressed, is aggressive and yet is respectful of authority. Pick one of these when presented with a pair, if a pair has both, be honest. Don't feel the need to pick a choice you picked earlier, treat each question pair as unrelated instances. Again, to quote an another user, these questions basically ask if you are a dick or an asshole.

-UAV: Similar method to what KWilcox949 suggested. Took a post it note and drew 4 squares around a central one, marking the outer ones N,S,E and W. When looking at the top down viewpoint with the triangle pointing in a certain direction toward a dot and north pointing up, I would simply orient my post it note so that the direction indicated was now at the top of my post it note (NW, SE, SW and NE would be in between the N,S, E and W squares). Then just picked the correct parking lot based on this rotation. Don't read which target lot you need to target, utilize the audio for that. Exploit the practice section as many times as you want, it will give you different examples each time so it's worth it. For the real deal, my reaction time was between 1-2.5 s, only 2 wrong.

-Dichotic Listening: Make sure you know whether to press the clutch or trigger for even/odd numbers, I was mentally rehearsing the opposite before the test, thus always read all directions for all sections just in case. About a second in between each set of alphanumeric characters voiced in each ear at the same time. Helps to lean your head in the direction of the target ear you're listening to. You could also practice this with 2 friends synchronizing speaking alphanumeric characters into each ear.

-Vertical Tracking: There is a bit of a delay associated when pushing/pulling the throttle, so be patient when waiting for the crosshair to catch up to the plane. Overcompensating is exactly what the system wants you to do. You know you're doing good in this and subsequent practical tests if the plane starts to behave more erratically/redirecting suddenly.

-Vertical and 2D Tracking: For the joystick that's associated with the 2D tracking, X axis is normal (left means left, right means right) but Y axis is inverted (e.g. pull back to go up, push forward to go down) so it may help to play some video games to get used to this. Also, be aware that when the joystick is in the rest position (centered), no motion will happen. Focus 2/3 of your attention on the 2D portion and 1/3 on the vertical tracking. If you can get green on both crosshairs at the same time, even if for an instant, it will rack up major points. Don't try to predict where the planes will go, just do your best to follow, as I believe that it takes into account average distance your crosshairs are from the planes. Also, it may help to keep your vertical crosshair within the middle 1/3 of the screen, as overcompensation is much more likely with your attention divided.

-Vertical, 2D and dichotic hearing: Longest portion, think I had to listen to each ear three times. 2/3 of your attention on the dichotic listening, 2/9 on the 2D and 1/9 on the vertical. The rate of the alphanumeric characters is the same, so you can revert back to the 2/3+1/3 rule from before during the brief gap (about a second) between each set of alphanumeric characters.

-Vertical, 2D and EMERGENCY PROCEDURES: Write down all the directions associated, and take your time to memorize them, as there is no practice portion unlike the previous sections. Two knobs will be used to change the direction of your gauges. The top knob will control your fuel, the side knob will control your power. Clutch is used to reset once adjustments have been made. I don't believe there's a way to know which direction you need to rotate the knobs, so pick a direction and slowly turn the knob, when you confirm it's the right direction, turn it all the way to min/max, otherwise turn it the other way to min/max. Fire: both gauges need to go down, then press clutch. Engine: Both gauges need to go up, press clutch. Propeller: DON'T TOUCH THE TOP KNOB ASSOCIATED WITH FUEL, turn power knob so that the power gauge goes all the way up, then press clutch (I almost pressed the clutch too early on this last part, but saved myself). When an emergency procedure pops up, drop your vertical and 2D tracking to focus on fixing it as quickly as possible, then get back to the tracking when you're done resolving it.

I'm sure there were other questions but these were the questions I can remember. Resources used: pdf study guide, books in order of usefulness: [ASTB-E Study Guide, Barron's, ARCO, Learning Express], flashcards on cram.com, sample questions on the med.navy.mil website, Marine Gouge, Marine Aviation Supplement, the pdf detailing how the practical portion works and of course all the threads here at AirWarriors. Any questions, please ask; if I don't know the answer to your question, I will find out. All feedback is welcome.

Can you explain what you did with the sticky note again? I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.
 

aebchoi

Member
For the people who've already taken the exam, how did you study for the aviation/nautical knowledge portion?

The information is a bit overwhelming and it seems like (from the posts I've read) that the things I'm studying are either going to be or aren't going to be on the exam.

So, does anyone know for sure what is a must know for the aviation knowledge portion?
 

ChristianM

New Member
For the people who've already taken the exam, how did you study for the aviation/nautical knowledge portion?

The information is a bit overwhelming and it seems like (from the posts I've read) that the things I'm studying are either going to be or aren't going to be on the exam.

So, does anyone know for sure what is a must know for the aviation knowledge portion?

A must would be aircraft lights and boat terms. Know which color light is on the starboard side and port side.
Aircraft parts and what they do( i.e. ailerons, rudders, flaps), forces of flight. Know some stuff about categories of aircraft (such as A means ground combat, K means tanker) because I remember those questions. I was asked what a "bolter" is when referring to aircraft carrier landings. There was a question asking what plane was known for dive bombing I think.
 

CGrissom15

Active Member
A must would be aircraft lights and boat terms. Know which color light is on the starboard side and port side.
Aircraft parts and what they do( i.e. ailerons, rudders, flaps), forces of flight. Know some stuff about categories of aircraft (such as A means ground combat, K means tanker) because I remember those questions. I was asked what a "bolter" is when referring to aircraft carrier landings. There was a question asking what plane was known for dive bombing I think.

I was asked a question about a nuclear reactor and electron rods, so study up on your nuclear engineering also!
 
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