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OCS and NIOBC

VR-AM2

New Member
Hi all. My name is Scott and I recently received a commission in the USNR to become an Intel Officer (designator 1835) through the DCO program. I'm now affiliated with JIOCSOUTH 0174. Could you please let me know if it's possible for me to do the 5-month AD NIOBC program instead of completing the course on weekends for 18 months? If so, is it something that's relatively easy to do or is there a long wait list?

Thanks ahead of time for any insight you can provide.

Hi Scott,

Yes, you can do the AD NIOBC program. Every class at NIOBC has five slots for reservists. Just talk to your training officer at your new command. Once your command approves, the NOSC or your command will get in touch with the school and request a quota for you. When you have the quota, you request ADT orders in NROWS and that should do. I am a 1835 too and will start AD NIOBC in January. Also, there is no such thing as a wait list (in most cases). Your Training Officer can check for any open seats in the upcoming classes and once he finds one get it for you. When I last checked, there were five seats for reservists in all the classes starting this FY, but none in the ones starting in FY2015. I don't know how full the classes already are, though.

Hope that helps.
 

lost_in_asia

New Member
It looks like I may be a reservist in one of the upcoming active duty NIOBC courses. I want to bring my family with me and does anyone have any advice or know if that is possible? What is the housing situation like?
 

VR-AM2

New Member
It looks like I may be a reservist in one of the upcoming active duty NIOBC courses. I want to bring my family with me and does anyone have any advice or know if that is possible? What is the housing situation like?
I just finished NIOBC and you can bring your family. It is a full PCS move. If you go there from OCONUS, they will even ship your car there. If you go there from CONUS, you will have to drive your own car there. They will not provide you with a rental. As for housing, you will have to find your own place. There is no base housing for students and no BOQ. Since it is a PCS move, you will be getting Virginia Beach BAH while you're there. Most of the people in my class got their housing through a realtor beforehand, so they were able to ship their household goods as early as possible, because it takes 4-6 weeks for your stuff to get there. Hope that helps. If you have any more questions, just let me know.
 

lost_in_asia

New Member
I was able to get into the class starting on the 25th. Is anyone else in the class? Additionally, I was able arrange on base housing at NAS Oceana. Not sure if that was the best option or not, but I'm locked into the lease.
 

Spookcumber

Active Member
Ah lucky you - wish I could have made it into that class. I won't be classing up until the end of October. Oceana is close so you'll at least have that.
 

Scaevola

Arts and Crafts SME
I'm slated to ship to OCS on 5 July which, if all goes well, I'm figuring will get me to NIOBC in the October/November time frame. For anyone else who was there over the holidays, what was the leave/liberty/stand-down situation for Thanksgiving and Christmas? The wife is particularly interested in this scheduling detail.
 

lost_in_asia

New Member
I was there during the holidays this past year. You will get a long weekend for Thanksgiving and about a 2 week stand-down for Christmas / New Years. If you have accrued leave, you will be able to use it, if not, then you have to muster in person daily. You typically will muster and be done but could be used to do chores that have accumulated. We did a lot of shredding.....

Depending on when the holiday falls you will get a few days of liberty on and around the holidays, but cannot use liberty if you are taking leave. You will be charged leave the entire time.
 

Nevang5

New Member
Hi all. My name is Scott and I recently received a commission in the USNR to become an Intel Officer (designator 1835) through the DCO program. I'm now affiliated with JIOCSOUTH 0174. Could you please let me know if it's possible for me to do the 5-month AD NIOBC program instead of completing the course on weekends for 18 months? If so, is it something that's relatively easy to do or is there a long wait list?

Thanks ahead of time for any insight you can provide.
Scott,
I am thinking of joining the reserves as an intel officer. Would you be able to explain the training and difficulty of the program thus far? I’ve heard you need to ace every exam or you fail out of the program. Is this true?
Thank you
Nicole
 

Nevang5

New Member
I’m thinking of going intel through DCO in the reserves. I was wondering if anyone would know what the NIOBC course is like if you were to take it over the 18 month period? Would it be more difficult? And what are the information dominance basic/ leadership courses in VA like?
Thanks
Nicole
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
I’m thinking of going intel through DCO in the reserves. I was wondering if anyone would know what the NIOBC course is like if you were to take it over the 18 month period? Would it be more difficult? And what are the information dominance basic/ leadership courses in VA like?
Thanks
Nicole

1. Start by being eligible for Intel DCO, which you’re not right now.

DCO programs = Must have at least 3-4 years relevant work experience. Also, masters degree is key for IWC programs.
 
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bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
I was wondering if anyone would know what the NIOBC course is like if you were to take it over the 18 month period? Would it be more difficult? And what are the information dominance basic/ leadership courses in VA like?
Nicole
The 18 month "course" sucks, honestly, especially for people with experience in the field. I really wish they would force everyone into the AD course. The issue is that you lose your grasp of the information by only looking at it one weekend a month for 18 months.

The benefit of the AD course is that you are immersed and are more prepared for your INTEL and IDWO PQS.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Scott,
I am thinking of joining the reserves as an intel officer. Would you be able to explain the training and difficulty of the program thus far? I’ve heard you need to ace every exam or you fail out of the program. Is this true?
Thank you
Nicole

To add what @RUFiO181 said many of those I saw picked up for DCO programs had significant work experience in the field, often 10 years.
 

Hair Warrior

Well-Known Member
Contributor
The 18 month "course" sucks, honestly, especially for people with experience in the field. I really wish they would force everyone into the AD course. The issue is that you lose your grasp of the information by only looking at it one weekend a month for 18 months.

The benefit of the AD course is that you are immersed and are more prepared for your INTEL and IDWO PQS.
There is no more 18 month IDT course. There is now a 4.5 week ADT course plus a 2 week AT course.
 
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Hair Warrior

Well-Known Member
Contributor
Well the downside is that all DWEs leading up to that 4.5-week RNIOBC phase 1 course are largely “unstructured.” Some might say “wasted.” No PQS material is covered, no book sign-offs are allowed. Since Ensigns need to complete DCOIC before attending RNIOBC, that means a new ENS 1835 may go a year before even starting his or her 3I1 Intel PQS. So the first 12+ months of that 36 month clock to earn one’s Intel PQS is usually just lost time.
 
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